13:06 Tombstone
Join us to discuss Season 13, Episode 6 Tombstone. No, it's not about the frozen pizza, nor is it actually in Tombstone. That doesn't stop Liz from doing lore based there, though, as she talks about the maybe haunted, and maybe not a former bordello, the Bird Cage Theater.
Research Links
- Aimee Austin | THE CABINET CARD GALLERY
- The Birdcage Theatre - Phoenix Ghosts
- The Haunted Bird Cage Theatre | Tombstone's Wickedest Night Spot | Ghost City Tours
- The Tombstone News
- The Tombstone News
- Secrets of Bird Cage Theatre - Deaths Shootings Ghosts & More
- Bird Cage Theatre – OCCULT WORLD
- The Famous “Bird Cages” Balcony Cribs
- Why Big Nose Kate Was More Than Just Doc Holliday's Lover
Transcript
On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, Shower Steak Cemetery.
Speaker B:Sounds like a good time to me.
Speaker B:Let's do this.
Speaker A:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker A:I'm Diana.
Speaker B:And I'm Liz.
Speaker A:And we're gonna talk about Season 13, Episode 6, Tombstone.
Speaker B:Sometimes I want a tombstone pizza.
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker B:It's very rare because they're kind of disgusting.
Speaker B:Sometimes I want how disgusting they are, especially if they come with Canadian bacon.
Speaker B:Like, that's the right kind of, like.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:It was just.
Speaker B:That was always my favorite in the frozen pizza aisle was the Canadian bacon, probably because it was rare and I would eat it at my grandmother's.
Speaker A:That makes sense.
Speaker A:Makes sense.
Speaker B:I don't think that's why they named this episode Tombstone, though.
Speaker A:Not.
Speaker A:Not after the frozen pizza.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:I'm sad they didn't reference it at all.
Speaker B:That's a shame.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:It's a missed opportunity, really.
Speaker B:For sure.
Speaker B:So what have you been up to?
Speaker A:We celebrated Babe's birthday and a bunch of other family birthdays.
Speaker A:Happy birthday, Babe.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then we went to check out the Dallas FIFA fan Fest at Fair Park.
Speaker B:A lot of alliteration.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that was neat.
Speaker A:And hot, but neat.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Yeah, what else?
Speaker A:And we went.
Speaker A:Had a fun dinner at a restaurant that is in a place where our old favorite restaurant was, which was weird.
Speaker A:That's what I got.
Speaker A:That's what I got.
Speaker A:Pretty chill around here.
Speaker A:How about you?
Speaker B:I think I'm in the.
Speaker B:I'm in a war with gnats, and.
Speaker A:They're bad right now.
Speaker B:I think I'm just gonna give them the house at this point.
Speaker B:I don't know anymore.
Speaker B:Like, it's just.
Speaker B:And part of the.
Speaker B:You know, the problem is, is that they're in my plants, too.
Speaker B:So, like, to.
Speaker B:I've never had them this bad before.
Speaker B:And, you know, so it's like, how big of a strategy.
Speaker B:Like, how much of war do I want to go?
Speaker B:Like, because it involves, like, tackling, like, the gnats and all the plants and everywhere.
Speaker B:And I already have, like, different traps set up around the house to capture them.
Speaker B:There's, like, three or four different kinds of fruit fly traps that are, like, that I'm catching them on and.
Speaker B:But there's just, like, they.
Speaker B:They all the time, they just keep making more nats, and they just keep hiding in places, and then, like, you.
Speaker B:And then they fly in your face and up your nose and tickles.
Speaker B:They hide a kitty litter.
Speaker B:Like, they're just like, yeah, they're little bastards.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:So like I've got an automatic kitty litter box.
Speaker B:So some.
Speaker B:The kitty litter opens up and then it'll be like, haha.
Speaker B:Like nats will come out of there.
Speaker B:I was like, you, like everywhere.
Speaker A:That's sneaky.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't like.
Speaker B:It's rude.
Speaker B:They're just rude.
Speaker B:And they fly into your orifices and nobody needs that.
Speaker B:And they also fly into my water.
Speaker B:So I'm like protecting it.
Speaker B:Like, I'm protecting it from like a date rapist.
Speaker B:I'm just like keeping my hand over the top of it, just being like.
Speaker B:And like constantly looking inside it to see if the colors changed.
Speaker B:Does the texture feel weird?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that's.
Speaker B:That's some.
Speaker B:I guess it's a summer battle is.
Speaker B:I guess it's better than like the screw worm or whatever else.
Speaker A:Yeah, nothing's terrifying.
Speaker A:I saw that on the news.
Speaker A:I'm like not reading that article.
Speaker A:I don't want to read about that.
Speaker A:I don't want to read about it.
Speaker B:Flies right now.
Speaker B:Like every time I see like a bigger one, I'm like, please don't be.
Speaker B:Don't be able to do I have an open boom.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker B:So yeah, it's.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's the progress as we go as summer flies by.
Speaker B:And it just.
Speaker B:We've just.
Speaker B:We're sucking at the end of June here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's crazy.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And I'm still sitting here.
Speaker B:And so also the thing about the.
Speaker B:The gnats is they make you look a crazy person because I will be constantly squatting it because nobody can see the gnats except me.
Speaker B:And so I'm just squatting at the air like an insane person.
Speaker B:All right, so there's.
Speaker B:Last time I checked this week, there wasn't anything new on the guys.
Speaker B:They're just doing.
Speaker B:They're doing what they're doing in summer.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:I'm sure they're filming things and getting buff.
Speaker B:Probably knowing them and going like you do.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Going to cons.
Speaker B:I haven't shot to con schedule, but anyway, so this episode that we're going to talk about, like we said, is Tombstone.
Speaker B:It was episode six of season 13.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:It was directed by Nina Lopez Gerardo, who last season did episode five, the one you've been waiting for, and somewhere between heaven and hell, which is episode 15.
Speaker B:She.
Speaker B:That one was written by Davey Perez, who also wrote American Nightmare and Stuck in the middle with you.
Speaker B:So he had the.
Speaker B:The song Ones.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And this.
Speaker B:So this is not a song title one?
Speaker B:No, again, they moved away from that.
Speaker B:But I, I'm sure there is a psychobilly song called Tombstone.
Speaker B:I, I, I will bet you a dollar there is.
Speaker A:But I have no doubt in my mind.
Speaker B:I'm pretty sure I somebody in a band who has sung a song called Tombstone.
Speaker B:That's what this episode does.
Speaker B:Bring back some memories.
Speaker B:All right, so our recap.
Speaker B:Jack can't control it.
Speaker B:He's a Nephilim.
Speaker B:He's Lucifer's son.
Speaker B:He's sorry and just a kid.
Speaker B:Jack can't move a pencil, so he must be evil.
Speaker B:Zombies mean headshots.
Speaker B:People come back, though.
Speaker B:What gets burned stays dead.
Speaker B:Castiel, question mark.
Speaker B:The empty.
Speaker B:Then cast on earth.
Speaker B:Then eye humping between dusty L. And we start in Dodge City, Kansas.
Speaker B:And we're kind of confusing because we, we were doing one of those things.
Speaker B:We start in the middle of an action.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Dean and some guy we don't know.
Speaker A:Dude in a cowboy hat or in a cemetery.
Speaker B:Kind of track.
Speaker B:But both of them have shotguns out and flashlights.
Speaker A:And they're being.
Speaker A:Something's chasing them kind of sorta.
Speaker A:And I do like the comment.
Speaker A:They're like, it's fast.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, it's not faster than bullets.
Speaker A:I was like, okay.
Speaker A:And so they split up because of course they do.
Speaker A:But something reaches up from the ground through the earth and pulls cowboy hat dude down down a hole.
Speaker B:And my, My computer has underlined the hole, so it's really prominent of a hole.
Speaker B:So just had to point that out because I'm 15.
Speaker B:And so the man in a cowboy hat gets pulled down a hole.
Speaker B:And Dean says, oh, hell.
Speaker B:Because we can tell he's contemplating whether or not he's gonna have to go down that hole.
Speaker B:But we're gonna have to wait to find that out because we're gonna travel back in time to 48 hours earlier.
Speaker A:Of course we are.
Speaker A:And it is Sam and Dean.
Speaker A:We picked back up where the last episode left off, where Sam and Dean have pulled up to this payphone where Castiel is there.
Speaker A:And basically he explains that he annoyed an ancient cosmic being so much that he sent him back.
Speaker A:So Dean wants hugs immediately.
Speaker A:So he gets his hug first, and then Sam gets his hug.
Speaker A:And Cassio asks how long he's been gone.
Speaker A:And I think it's really weird that Dean's like, it's been too long.
Speaker B:Just give the man a time reference.
Speaker A:That is not a real answer.
Speaker B:Give him a time reference.
Speaker B:It Also hasn't been that long.
Speaker B:It really doesn't feel like it's been that long.
Speaker B:It feels like it's been, what, like maybe a month?
Speaker B:Maybe, Maybe, maybe, maybe.
Speaker B:Like not even that.
Speaker B:It hasn't been a full year, that's for sure.
Speaker B:So Cass tells him that he was in the empty, and that's where angels and demons go when they die.
Speaker B:And it's just like a big old thing of nothing.
Speaker B:And he's trying to figure out how he came back and he thought that the boys did something.
Speaker B:And they're like, no, we didn't do anything.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they're like, well, maybe it was Chuck or God.
Speaker A:And he's like, no, he doesn't have any power there.
Speaker A:So then dawns on Sam that it must have been Jack.
Speaker B:It must have been Jack who has done something thing.
Speaker B:So it's time to go to the bunker where Jack is typing on the computer.
Speaker B:It's time for cast to come in and introduce themselves.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Jack is confused because what he thought what was burned stays dead.
Speaker A:But he admits that he begged and really wanted Castiel back.
Speaker A:He doesn't know how this has happened, but either way, they're going to hug.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And then Jack really wants to show off that he can make the pencil move now, which is exciting.
Speaker A:And he found a zombie case because.
Speaker B:He knows what zombies are now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And knows how to research cases because he's just been watching Sam and Dean a lot.
Speaker A:So there is apparently, he says, a dead rising.
Speaker A:The dead are rising in Dodge City, Kansas.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But his evidence is a little shaky.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, it could just be grave robbers.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, yeah, we should still just check the.
Speaker B:This out, though.
Speaker B:It was still.
Speaker B:It was a cool little story, you know, involved, like, finding a wa.
Speaker B:You know, a.
Speaker B:A vintage pocket watch at a pawn shop and just like, things that would be impossible to see on a computer.
Speaker B:But it's cool.
Speaker B:And Dean just wants to go to check it out because they've done more for less.
Speaker B:And Dodge City is just kind of awesome.
Speaker B:And he's like.
Speaker B:Then looking around, he's like two salty hunters, one half angel kid and a dude who just came back from the dead again.
Speaker B:Team free will 2.0.
Speaker B:Here we go.
Speaker A:Yeah, I like that.
Speaker A:I like the team free will 2.0.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's cute.
Speaker A:So they pull up at the Stampede Motel, which is also a western wear store.
Speaker A:And he is very excited.
Speaker A:Dean has gotten them the best room, the Wild Bill suite.
Speaker A:And I'm also slightly Impressed that they are carrying their FBI suits in dry cleaning bags.
Speaker A:That means did they go take them to get cleaned?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:They must have taken them to cleaners.
Speaker A:I'm slightly impressed.
Speaker B:And they're not in duffel bags right now.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker A:Like usual.
Speaker A:Like, squished up, rolled up in a ball.
Speaker A:Probably.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But anyway, so in the room, there's photos of a bunch of legendary cowboys and gunslingers.
Speaker A:And Dean is stoked, and he is telling the stories about all of them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he's got the plan to get showers, steak, and then tomorrow they'll hit at the cemetery.
Speaker B:I'm like, tomorrow?
Speaker C:Tomorrow?
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker B:But I'm like, okay, that.
Speaker B:That sounds like a plan.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Those things all sound good to me.
Speaker B:I, I, those out.
Speaker B:Those three things sound like something that would be on my list.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:That does sound.
Speaker A:That's like Liz's plans.
Speaker A:That's very.
Speaker B:Shower, steak, cemetery.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:So he's also very excited.
Speaker B:There are stirrup hangers in the room.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:I was trying to imagine what those look like, and I kind of wish they had shown them.
Speaker A:Yeah, same.
Speaker A:So, and Sam's.
Speaker A:Sam's like, hey, yeah, you're in a.
Speaker A:You brought your own hat.
Speaker A:You're in a good mood.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, yeah.
Speaker A:I said we needed a big win, and we got it.
Speaker A:Castiel's back.
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker B:So, yeah, also, Jack and Cass kind of went over.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So just one thing is.
Speaker B:Because it's kind of canon stuff that we've talked about before.
Speaker B:So Jack tells Cass that he can have the couch if he wants because he doesn't sleep much.
Speaker B:And Cass is like, I don't sleep at all.
Speaker B:So now we've solidified the fact that Jack does, in fact, sleep.
Speaker B:He just doesn't sleep that much.
Speaker B:Much.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Minimal sleep.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:So we cut to a, like the.
Speaker A:A high.
Speaker A:I don't know, country road, whatever.
Speaker A:And there's like, a truck, abandoned truck.
Speaker A:And this cop is running the plate on it.
Speaker A:And as he's doing that, and he's bitching about it, the passenger door opens.
Speaker A:And so he has to get out and investigate, but there's no one inside.
Speaker A:The radio is telling him that this truck's stolen.
Speaker A:And we get a lot of creepy noises.
Speaker A:And the door moves again when he doesn't see it.
Speaker A:And he gets pulled under the truck.
Speaker B:No, I don't like pulled under.
Speaker B:Things don't.
Speaker B:Things dislike that.
Speaker B:Like, I don't like to be knowing things are underneath.
Speaker B:Stuff don't like it.
Speaker B:And I don't like things Touching ankles,.
Speaker A:Grabbing your feet and pulling them out front.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we're gonna go from that to the motel where the boys are sleeping and Jack is.
Speaker B:Is filling Cass in and all the things that are trying to kill him so far.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he's a little confused because he thought angels were good.
Speaker A:And Cassiel's like, well, in heaven, that's kind of relative.
Speaker A:But he just wants heaven to be nice because he knows that Kelly is there.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:So Castiel is very complimentary of her.
Speaker A:And then of Kelly and Jack's like, well, you know, she had this message and she, you know, he remembers why.
Speaker A:Why they trusted Castiel.
Speaker A:Jack remembers knowing about Castiel when he was.
Speaker A:Before he was born.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Which is weird.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:And Cass is, you know, talking about how, you know, Kelly believed that Jack would change the world for the better.
Speaker A:And he knows that she was right and would be proud.
Speaker A:So in the middle of this, Jack is watching the scanner and here's the officer down thing.
Speaker A:So he is going to run and wake up Dean, which is a terrible idea.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Dean pulls a gun on him and then he just immediately wants coffee.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And Cass is like, I told you.
Speaker B:Dean is an angry bear sleeper.
Speaker A:I just like.
Speaker A:I don't think I've ever heard people referred to as an angry sleeper.
Speaker A:There's light sleepers or heavy angry sleeper.
Speaker A:So he is.
Speaker A:Jack has heard the report that the victim has is covered in bite marks and he thinks it's like a zombie.
Speaker A:So Sam and Jack are going to go the graveyard while Dean and Cass are gonna go to the crime scene after Dean finishes his coffee.
Speaker B:I know that look.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know that face.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:That's important.
Speaker B:It can wait.
Speaker B:So at the crime scene, Dean and Cass are waiting outside the car.
Speaker B:And Dean looks like he's in Pulp Fiction.
Speaker A:Oh, he's got his bolo.
Speaker A:He's ready.
Speaker B:He is ready.
Speaker B:And Cass has on a ridiculous hat.
Speaker A:Oh, gosh, it's bad.
Speaker B:And Dean tells Cass to act like he is from Tootinstone.
Speaker B:And Cass is confused.
Speaker B:He's asking if he means the city.
Speaker B:And Dean, of course, means the movie.
Speaker B:The one with the guns and the tuberculosis.
Speaker B:I'm your huckleberry.
Speaker B:And with the AM Huckleberry, we are going to go into some lore.
Speaker B:About Tombstone because that's the name of this episode.
Speaker B:And maybe I thought this episode took place in Tombstone.
Speaker B:I forgot it took place in a different state, but whatever.
Speaker B:So we're going to Tombstone, Arizona, and we're going to talk about a place there called the Birdcage Theater.
Speaker B:And the main source of this was the Bird Cage Theater by Michael Paul Milhaujevic and the rest are going to be in the show notes.
Speaker B:So if you're lucky enough to visit Tombstone, Arizona you can visit the Bird Cage Opera House.
Speaker B:Have you been to Tombstone?
Speaker A:I have not.
Speaker A:I forgot.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I have not been there either.
Speaker B:So this gym of the Wild west was once described as the roughest, wildest honky tonk in the West.
Speaker B:It's rumored to have 20 gunfights and 26 murders.
Speaker B:There are 140 bullet holes in the walls.
Speaker B:Visitors were said to have included infamous western outlaws such as Wyatt Earp, Doc Holliday and Bat Masterson.
Speaker B:And of course it's said to be haunted as the.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:Birdcage was a popular name for businesses at the time, including one saloon in Galveston, Texas which was blocks away from the original Birdcage owner Billy Hutchison's old house.
Speaker B:So it's possible that that's where he got the idea from.
Speaker B:It's also possible that he named it for its small size as he was trying to fit a full size theater into a 30 foot wide lot.
Speaker B:As far as I know, no woman ever sat in bird cages as is sometimes said is the reason.
Speaker B:So as a music person I think this will and a venue runner.
Speaker B:This will probably make you go.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:The birdcage was open 24 hours?
Speaker A:Oh no, absolutely not.
Speaker A:Terrible.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So it was open 24 hours.
Speaker B:Stage shows started at 9pm and continued until 1am Then the chairs would be cleared away for dancing.
Speaker B:Advertisements for the Birdcage when it opened, price general admission at 50 cents and the box at $2.50 and about 160 to 200 people attended per night.
Speaker B:When things were going well after the first seven months, the cost was cut to 25 cents a person and they also added matinees.
Speaker B:When you first walk in, there was a large wooden bar where patrons could pick up drinks before heading into the theater.
Speaker B:The stage is 15ft wide by 15ft deep and about 5ft above the main floor.
Speaker B:It was lit by a row of gas jets along the front side, which just sounds fucking terrifying.
Speaker B:There was also a cellar level with the saloon, maybe gambling tables and rooms for dressing.
Speaker B:If you take a tour of the Bird Cage, you will likely hear that these were for prostitution.
Speaker B:But no, they were actually nice dressing rooms sometimes which was required for the masquerade balls.
Speaker B:They could have swallowed A net.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:We're talking about the green rooms.
Speaker A:We're talking about green rooms.
Speaker B:If you take a tour of the bird cage, you will likely hear that these rooms were for prostitution.
Speaker B:But no, they were actually nice dressing rooms.
Speaker B:Not cribs.
Speaker B:Something which is required for the masquerade balls and the performers sometimes.
Speaker B:So the boxes are on the main.
Speaker B:In the main level.
Speaker B:Ish.
Speaker B:Are part of the bird cage's fame.
Speaker B:The sides of the theater were lined with 14 private boxes, each with heavy red velvet drapes that could be drawn for privacy.
Speaker B:These were entered via a narrow stairway from behind the front of the bar.
Speaker B:Being in the box also would cost you more for drinks.
Speaker B:So this is the VIP room area.
Speaker B:So in the box, the drinks are going to be four bits, which are 50 cents, and there are two bits everywhere else.
Speaker B:I'm like, how much change did you have to carry around?
Speaker A:That seems rude.
Speaker A:The people that buy the box, they shouldn't have more expensive drinks.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, like.
Speaker B:But you're in the.
Speaker B:That you have the money to burn, so you're paying for the luxury of being there.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And I also kind of compare it to.
Speaker B:I kind of feel.
Speaker B:And I know this is, you know, this was a rowdy honky tonk.
Speaker B:And we're gonna go through all this stuff.
Speaker B:We're about to tell you how there wasn't any, like, prostitution or sex work going on there.
Speaker B:But I think there was just not, like, on the.
Speaker B:I don't think it was that flagrant.
Speaker B:Like, I'm pretty sure there was some on the down low.
Speaker B:Because you have these boxes that have giant red velvet curtains, and you have women and you have men.
Speaker B:And I'm sure at some point, somebody paid for something, because just to me, it's like a champagne room.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And this really feels kind of like an early strip house.
Speaker B:Strip.
Speaker B:Strip club in some ways.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And I said, you know, so just like sex sometimes happens in a champagne room, it's likely stuff was happening in these balconies.
Speaker B:Just not blatant sex work, like most of the legends state.
Speaker B:And here is some logic.
Speaker B:Tombstone created ordinances that zoned the legal boundaries for prostitution.
Speaker B:And the bird cage was outside that legal boundary.
Speaker B:If a sex worker was caught doing business outside the boundary, she would be removed and often fined.
Speaker B:Even when the boundaries were removed, no license for sex work was ever issued to the birdcage or any of its employees.
Speaker B:Tombstone's original recorders docket, which tracked arrest charges and fines for municipal offenses, shows numerous citations for prostitution and Licensing infractions throughout the city.
Speaker B:However, no such arrests were ever documented at the burnt cage.
Speaker B:So either they were like, had greased those wheels of every cop in town for the entire time that it operated, or that just wasn't happening there.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Annie Ashley, who is an actress at the birdcage, said of the working girls, sometimes the women would come to the theater and they'd spend their money freely like the minors.
Speaker B:Another performer said the honky tonks furnished prostitutes with relief from their professional ordeals.
Speaker B:Here they went for forgetting.
Speaker B:Forget forgetfulness and laughter.
Speaker B:Their working day was over.
Speaker B:They could give full attention to the performance as they sat and cried over a topical ballad or applauded a bit.
Speaker B:And one tombstone resident said, and I really kind of like this quote.
Speaker B:There was degrees of respectability among the non respectable.
Speaker A:Huh, okay.
Speaker B:And I'm like, yeah, no, I kind of get that.
Speaker B:You know, like being.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:There's rules too, right?
Speaker B:So Annie also recalled how the women were treated and how they were paid.
Speaker B:After the show was over, every night downstairs would be turned, turned into a dance hall.
Speaker B:The tables will be cleared away and we girls would come down to entertain.
Speaker B:If the men opened Champagne, we got $1 on each bottle.
Speaker B:Other drinks, we got 10 cents on the dollar.
Speaker B:Earning money, money, earning money.
Speaker B:There then was exciting, to say the least.
Speaker B:After the time, we girls got so accustomed to the overhanging excitement that we didn't think anything of it.
Speaker B:Yet we remained morally good women and took care of our family.
Speaker B:The cowboys treated us like children.
Speaker B:A woman, no matter who she was, even a street walker, was respected according to the laws of these outlaws.
Speaker B:God help anyone who ever made a slurring remark about a girl.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know how true that was, but that's just interesting.
Speaker B:So the female wait staff, who were often the performers, were known as wrestlers.
Speaker B:Some of the women were actually good, sort of, you know, quote unquote, morally upstanding women, right.
Speaker B:Who were just taking money for the dances and whatnot.
Speaker B:And some are just hustling their asses off.
Speaker B:Former burghage performer Joe Adams noted their occupation was a highly profitable one.
Speaker B:A clever singing and dancing girl could draw from $50 to $75 as salary and commissions from wine sales would frequently double that.
Speaker B:But their morals were surprisingly straight.
Speaker B:One performer described a method she used to avoid getting wasted.
Speaker B:While I sat, I put the bottle in back of me and pour the contents on the floor to drink less and make him buy more.
Speaker B:The girls would sometimes order tea and whiskey glasses to fool him.
Speaker B:I feel like these are tricks that have been going on at cocktail bars and again at strip clubs since like the daughter time.
Speaker B:Like, oh, you want to buy me a drink?
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker B:And then like here's one going over my shoulder as I get you more intoxicated so you buy more dances from me.
Speaker B:Like they're literally buying dances.
Speaker B:Like, this is okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So being a wrestler could make things awkward if you were married, as 22 of them were.
Speaker B:One performer recalled his wife didn't feel comfortable selling drinks and he told her just to stick to the dressing room.
Speaker B:The manager noted this and told the husband that his wife needed to hustle and get around more.
Speaker B:And when she only earned a few dollars in commissions over a week, she was fired.
Speaker B:Yep, yep.
Speaker B:So if your relationship could also get really strained.
Speaker B:This is another quote.
Speaker B:So frequently the husbands would be singing or doing a comedy scene while looking on at their wives sitting on the laps of love struck minors.
Speaker B:The girls, alert and mindful of their cues, would excuse themselves through the stage, whereupon the miners and adjoining boxes would say, look at Brown, he's been sitting with an actress.
Speaker B:And the fortunate miner would throw out his chest if he'd had his way with Diana, Goddess of the hunt.
Speaker B:Put your titties away, Diana.
Speaker B:All right, so the variety show featured skits, singers, comedians and of course dancers.
Speaker B:The cancan was a favorite of the crowd, although I bet the least favorite of the dancers because it takes so much endurance to do the goddam.
Speaker B:It's so much, it's, it's so fun for like the first three or four kicks and then it's no.
Speaker B:Why did I start this?
Speaker A:So intense.
Speaker B:It's intense.
Speaker B:So some nights the club with their masquerade balls, complete with the cross dressing entertainers David Waters and Will Curlew.
Speaker B:The mask would be raised at midnight with 15 minutes notice given for those who wanted to remain anonymous.
Speaker B:There is a legend that there was a poker game at the Bird Cage which ran for eight years and that $10 million passed over the T. The Birdcage never had a license for gambling and it's unlikely that a game lasted that long.
Speaker B:Additionally, all five owners of the Birdcage left their time with business broke as hell.
Speaker B:And also the press, which would be like they would cover card games, right?
Speaker B:Because that's what was going on in Tombstone.
Speaker B:And if there had been one where all this money was going on, they would have reported on it and they never did.
Speaker B:And also none of the Birdcage advertisements, which were pretty extensive, said anything about gambling which if there was that was going on, they probably would have said it.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Now, onto the 20 murders.
Speaker B:I'm not sure how many murders there actually were.
Speaker B:There was definitely some violence, but it seems like it was typical drunken bar violence.
Speaker B: rs that took place in July of: Speaker B:And so one of them was a black guy and the other one was a Frenchman.
Speaker B:And they got into a row about midnight and they were talking about their work, and they started to plug each other in good shape.
Speaker B:They were gobbled up by Officers Coyle and Holmes before could do any damage.
Speaker B:They were arrested, subsequently released on bonds, and they had a hearing.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But this is just interesting because it shows that the bird cage also hired men, which a lot of places that it was all female, it was not an all female staff.
Speaker B:And they had at least one person of color there, which for the Wild west seems pretty progressive.
Speaker B:Maybe.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B: the bird cage In September of: Speaker B:I just wanted to say Dick Roberts.
Speaker B:But this is also during a benefit for a performer who was a mother of two who was chronically ill.
Speaker B:So everyone was like, you.
Speaker B:Like, why are you getting a fight during this?
Speaker B:Like you don't get during a fight during a benefit, you Dicks.
Speaker B:So the John Doe got hauled off.
Speaker B:He got.
Speaker B:He had to pay a fine.
Speaker B: one night also In February of: Speaker B:Now, why are they wanted these things?
Speaker B:I do not understand.
Speaker B:But for some reason, the seemed like something they wanted.
Speaker B:They followed the guy out of the theater, and one block away they were ambushed by masked men.
Speaker B:They were struck over the head and robbed of their watches and other valuables.
Speaker B:One of the men was shot, and his wound required him to take his meals in a standing position.
Speaker B:The attackers were never caught, huh?
Speaker B:Okay, so the first bullet hole at the bird cage.
Speaker B:This happened a month before the official opening.
Speaker B:A Luke Ricoba got into a fight the street and he was hit in the head with a revolver and that discharged upon the impact, striking the awning post.
Speaker B:The first murder at the bird cage.
Speaker B:Before the bird cage was built on the lot, it was owned by.
Speaker B:The lot was owned by miners.
Speaker B:Those miners lived in a frame cabin and they appeared to have claimed the land by simply saying this land is mine.
Speaker B:Which is what people just did in the old way sometimes.
Speaker B:This is my land.
Speaker B:So Billy Hutchinson then paid them $600 for this.
Speaker B: to be living in the cabin in: Speaker B: n would burn to the ground in: Speaker B:Fireproof adobe construction.
Speaker B:The first death of the bird cage actually happened the morning after opening night when their stage manager, Harry Lorraine died.
Speaker B:He was only in his 30s and the cause of his death was unconfirmed.
Speaker B:But they think that he got.
Speaker B:Got sick on the trip from San Francisco to Tombstone.
Speaker A:Yikes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So like I said, the buildings are said to be haunt.
Speaker B:The building is said to be very haunted.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:The great hall has the most.
Speaker B:And that's just the big main theater has the most paranormal activity, including smells of cigar smoke and whiskey.
Speaker B:There are sounds of singing, laughing, talking and gambling.
Speaker B:Like the shuffling of cards and rolling of dice.
Speaker B:And that can be heard when there's nobody else around.
Speaker B:There are also lots of apparitions of people in old fashioned clothes, Including a stage hand and black and white striped pants with a clipboard.
Speaker B:I appreciate a ghost who takes a clipboard to the afterlife.
Speaker B:We just got it.
Speaker B:We gotta take organization to.
Speaker B:So we're good.
Speaker B:You know, in one story, a hundred dollar poker chip was found on a poker table in the basement.
Speaker B:It was put in a safe until an expert could validate it.
Speaker B:However, when they opened the safe, the chip was gone.
Speaker B:And it was later found in a desk drawer.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:So the ghost city tours have a bunch of apparitions.
Speaker B:They claim that are there and you can go look at their website and they'll.
Speaker B:You go citydetours.com and they'll give.
Speaker B:I was gonna go through them, but they're just all kind of problematic to me.
Speaker B:Like, because it's like the lady in white Margarita prostitute murdered by a jealous client.
Speaker B:Crib number two in her white negligee because of course she's in a white gown.
Speaker B:And of it was just like.
Speaker B:She sings sad Spanish songs from her cage.
Speaker B:And this is.
Speaker B:Okay, this is very problematic, but it's.
Speaker B:I can't believe they put this in here.
Speaker B:Male visitors sometimes feel invisible hands caressing their faces while hearing her whisper.
Speaker B:Prices in Spanish Cinco.
Speaker B:Like, what the.
Speaker B:Like you made that.
Speaker B:Like someone made that up.
Speaker B:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Like, it's just.
Speaker B:It's wrong.
Speaker B:But Anyway, so they.
Speaker B:They do talk.
Speaker B:One of the ghosts, which is the wrong thing they call.
Speaker B:They say there's a ghost called Black Mariah.
Speaker B:But really what there is.
Speaker B:What I think is really cool is there is a hearse Cadillac in the theater called the Black Mariah and It's trimmed in 24 karat gold and silver.
Speaker B:It took all but six of the tombstone residents to Boot Hill graveyard.
Speaker B:And it was said that it had a cowboy for breakfast every day.
Speaker B:And it's valued by the Ford museum at over $2 million.
Speaker A:No, that's cool.
Speaker B:I think that's really cool.
Speaker B:So I did want to dig into the performers, but we don't have time.
Speaker B:So there's gonna be a.
Speaker B:More lore, so look for that.
Speaker B:And that's going to include stuff about the human fly, the flying nymph, and the murder of blonde Molly.
Speaker B:So really exciting things.
Speaker B:Look forward in there.
Speaker B:So the birdcage is.
Speaker B:I just thought it was a fun place in.
Speaker B:In Tombstone to get kind of.
Speaker B:Of old west haunting things going on.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:I was.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna say like I was disappointed to learn that it wasn't actually a.
Speaker B:You know, I've said it before.
Speaker B:It always make.
Speaker B:Hauntings always sound better if you include working girls.
Speaker B:Like, it always sounds like a better.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's gonna be a better haunting and people are going to be more interested in it.
Speaker B:So I can understand why the people who are running these businesses latch on to those legends to say that those things were happening in this.
Speaker B:In.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:In the theater.
Speaker B:This is how we get to more lore.
Speaker B:I think it was interesting enough that you didn't have to put in the.
Speaker B:The legends.
Speaker B:You didn't have to say that it was full of prostitutes.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Sex workers, whatever.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:But still, you know, it's.
Speaker B:You can go.
Speaker B:You can do ghost hunts.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:And you can do ghost hunts all over Tombstone.
Speaker B:So it's a very.
Speaker B:It's very touristy there.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:I almost did one on a.
Speaker B:On big, big, Big Nose Kate's Saloon, which you could go stay at overnight.
Speaker B:And they say that it was, you know, or bordello.
Speaker B:But it also got mad because Big Nose Kate didn't own it.
Speaker B:And I was just like.
Speaker B:So I didn't want to do that one either.
Speaker B:So we did birdcage.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So old west stuff.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:So back in this old West, Dean goes and finds Phillips, who is not the sheriff.
Speaker B:And Dean introduces himself as Agent Russell.
Speaker A:And we've got Space Cowboy by the Steve Miller Band playing as they're walking up because Dean's got his boots on and he is ready.
Speaker A:So we've got Sergeant Joe Phillips because the sheriff's on vacation.
Speaker A:Vacation.
Speaker B:So when Dean introduces himself as Agent Russell, Cass says he's about Kilmer.
Speaker B:Yeah, he sure does.
Speaker A:Yeah, he does.
Speaker A:So they share that the victim is Deputy Carl Phillips, who happens to be the sergeant's nephew.
Speaker A:And that the psycho slit his throat and that and then left his body for the coyote.
Speaker B:These coyotes.
Speaker B:Coyotes.
Speaker B:And Cass actually says the right thing.
Speaker B:And then the sergeant asks what the Texas Rangers are doing up there anyways.
Speaker B:And that makes Dean so happy.
Speaker B:Which is also very funny considering.
Speaker A:Yes, it is.
Speaker A:There's layers of hilarity there, but basically he.
Speaker A:He rolls with it.
Speaker A:And he said they're chasing a fugitive across state lines that was robbing Grace.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:So apparently Carl was looking into recent grave robberies, so maybe there's a connection.
Speaker A:And Sarge is going to kill this if he finds him first.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we've got some overzealous police work happening here, but you know, hey, we'll see what's going on.
Speaker B:And so we're gonna go to a funeral home, mortuary, cemetery.
Speaker B:I don't know what you wouldn't call it it.
Speaker A:And we've got Messer Chops.
Speaker A:They Call Me Zombie as our song choice, which is very entertaining.
Speaker A:And yeah, this basically it's the.
Speaker A:Our undertaker is a very rockabilly looking chick.
Speaker B:She is.
Speaker B:She's got a very cute little victory curl going on there and her makeup is on point and she's just rocking out with her.
Speaker B:With her beats on.
Speaker B:When Sam and Jack come in and Sam can't get her attention.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she is very startled.
Speaker A:But we find out her.
Speaker A:She introduces herself as Athena Lopez.
Speaker A:And so we get our.
Speaker A:Sam introduces himself as Agent Elliott and then introduces Jack as Agent Paxton, which is.
Speaker A:Which she's like, what the.
Speaker A:How is this kid an agent?
Speaker A:He's a child.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So now we've got Sam is Agent Elliott for Sam Elliott, who played Virgil Earp.
Speaker B:Earp.
Speaker B:Casio's Agent Kilmer for Val Kilmer who played Doc Holliday.
Speaker B:Jack is Agent Paxton for Bill Paxton who played Morgan Earp in Tombstone.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:References.
Speaker B:So now we have our Tombstone references complete.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And she explains that she lives on premises but she didn't see anything that the other night because she was at an Amanda Palmer concert.
Speaker A:Dresden Dolls.
Speaker A:Let's go.
Speaker A:Anyways.
Speaker A:And so of course Jack is trying to follow the cues of Sam and Dean.
Speaker A:And Incorrectly.
Speaker A:Incorrectly jumps into asking if there have been any weird stuff like cold spots or weird smells.
Speaker A:And she's like, I wasn't here is what I told you.
Speaker A:So maybe you should go look at the crime scene with the open grave outback.
Speaker A:Thanks.
Speaker B:Thanks.
Speaker A:Bye.
Speaker B:I have more pink goo to deal with.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't know what the pink goo.
Speaker A:Was, but I look like this is from Ghostbusters.
Speaker A:Ghostbusters, too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:It feels like it was, like, from.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Because.
Speaker B:Dms.
Speaker B:And Tell us what the pink gear was.
Speaker B:Undertakers.
Speaker B:And Undertaker also feels like a very weird title.
Speaker A:It does.
Speaker A:I was surprised she chose that as her introductory.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Like, is that.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Also, dm.
Speaker B:Tell us what you prefer to be called.
Speaker B:Do you want to be a mortician?
Speaker B:Do you want to be.
Speaker B:Is that different?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:So they go out to the graveyard, and the EMF reader is going off.
Speaker B:And Jack is just so excited until Sam is just like, man, we're in a second graveyard.
Speaker A:That's what happens.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And they find the open grave and a coffin.
Speaker A:And apparently the report said that the rats had damaged the coffin.
Speaker A:But there's a giant hole in this coffin.
Speaker A:There is.
Speaker B:And Sam, being the brave man that he is, he jumps down into the grave and he feels around till he gets a boner.
Speaker B:And so he finds a bone, and there are bite marks all over it.
Speaker A:And the dirt's really soft.
Speaker A:It's like there's been people digging around in there.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:So we go back to the motel, and Dean calls the bone leftovers.
Speaker A:Ew.
Speaker A:But Sam's like, look at all these bite marks.
Speaker A:It must be a ghoul.
Speaker A:And so Castiel has to explain to Jack what a ghoul is.
Speaker B:Ghouls.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And it's a monster that feeds on the dead.
Speaker B:And they can be killed by decapitation or smashing them in the head.
Speaker A:And they take the form of what they eat of whoever they eat.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And Jack gets that it's like a zombie shapeshifter, but not how they find it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Because if they can look like anything.
Speaker A:But anyway, so there's tunnels in the graveyard.
Speaker A:And now they've got to figure out how to find this thing.
Speaker A:So we cope back to the.
Speaker A:Is it a funeral home?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Yeah, sure.
Speaker B:Again, like, I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker B:Mortuary, funeral home, many things.
Speaker B:I think it's a funeral home.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:No, I know.
Speaker B:No part of it is a funeral home when she talks about selling it.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So Athena is walking down the hallway and someone is following.
Speaker B:Following her.
Speaker A:And she's listening to Hot Rod Rockin by Thaddeus Rose and the Thorns, which I didn't.
Speaker A:I wasn't familiar with them, but yeah.
Speaker A:And she's being followed.
Speaker A:So we cut back to the motel where Dean's opening a beer.
Speaker A:And he's like, well, it could be Athena, but that doesn't really make sense.
Speaker A:And we see going back and forth, seeing her getting stalked, which sounds.
Speaker B:With Sam said it would be smart.
Speaker B:A ghoul owning a mortuary since.
Speaker B:Mortuary.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:But she would.
Speaker B:But he was like, she wouldn't need to dig things up.
Speaker A:Up.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:She would just be snacking on what's on the table.
Speaker A:Truth.
Speaker A:So Jack's like, wait a minute.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:I found traffic cam footage.
Speaker A:Because now he knows how to pull that.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:He's been paying attention.
Speaker B:He is now hacker Jack.
Speaker B:So now Dean is also able to zoom in on the cab traffic cam footage to go onto the truck to determine that it is a long west old outlaw named Dave Mac.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:So that there's some old dead cowboy that's not long.
Speaker A:Not currently dead, I guess, is driving the stolen pickup truck.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:He's also learned how to drive.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And so once.
Speaker B:And we explained that he was one of the Dodge City gang, and there's a picture of him on the wall, and he was one of the best gunslingers there was, which is making Dean very excited.
Speaker A: But he died in: Speaker A:Except that he's also with Athena.
Speaker A:And he slaps her butt and she gets mad.
Speaker A:Mad.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:As you do.
Speaker A:And then they make out.
Speaker A:As you do.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:So Dave gives Athena a letter from that makeup school, and she's like, it's not just any makeup school.
Speaker B:It's a Ben Carruth makeup and special effects program.
Speaker B:And Ben Carruth is a special makeup effects coordinator on Supernatural.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Fun to get her.
Speaker A:Difference.
Speaker A:I like it.
Speaker A:But she's.
Speaker A:She got accepted, and she is so excited.
Speaker A:And he is not excited because it's in LA and it's expensive out there.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so she's like, well, I can just sell the funeral home and go.
Speaker A:And he's, like, trying to talk her out of it.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:She's just kind of bummed.
Speaker A:So she's like, whatever.
Speaker A:I've got work to do.
Speaker A:By the way, the FBI came by, and they asked some Weird ass questions.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:About like cold spots and stuff.
Speaker B:And you can see something triggering in his face.
Speaker B:Face.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So back to the motel.
Speaker A:Dean has determined that the ghoul ate the old west gunfighter and stole the truck.
Speaker A:So there we go.
Speaker A:And stole their face too.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:And so Jack's like, oh, wait, by the way, I've seen that guy before.
Speaker A:That's also Athena's boyfriend.
Speaker A:Ta da.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Because he saw a picture of Athena with Dave.
Speaker B:So then we go back to the mortuary and they pulled up.
Speaker A:They pulled up.
Speaker A:All four just roll right up.
Speaker B:And that's not intimidating at all.
Speaker B:And they try and figure out what they're gonna tell Athena.
Speaker B:Are you gonna tell her that the guy she is banging eats dead people and we're here to kill him?
Speaker A:Or are they gonna lie?
Speaker A:And, yeah, Jack and Cassiel State are supposed to stay in the car while Sam and Dean go in.
Speaker A:And she is pissed.
Speaker A:Like, who the are you guys?
Speaker A:They did not say that.
Speaker A:They have not told her any of this.
Speaker B:They're like, why are you in my house?
Speaker B:Because she also lives there.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And they're like, we're looking for your boyfriend about grave robbing and murder.
Speaker A:And she's like, he went to the bank.
Speaker B:Okay, so he ran to the bank.
Speaker B:But unfortunately, Dave didn't just make a run to the bank.
Speaker B:Dave went to rob the bank.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker A:So at the Stagecoach Credit Union, we have our security guard about to lock up.
Speaker A:But Dave rolls in with a bandana on his face and gun and says, howdy, partner.
Speaker A:Which is not very nice.
Speaker A:And he's threatening the teller.
Speaker A:They grab all the cash.
Speaker A:And as he's walking out, Dean is there with a shotgun and says that robbing a bank was a bold move.
Speaker A:Not wrong.
Speaker A:Not wrong.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But Dave has figured out that they're hunters.
Speaker A:And he explains that this is his favorite suit.
Speaker A:So he keeps a piece of Dave Mather to gnaw on.
Speaker B:He was around.
Speaker B:Isn't on him like he's a piece of turkey.
Speaker B:But then he's surrounded.
Speaker B:And then, much like, you know, okay, corral style, they all start shooting.
Speaker A:Everybody's shooting.
Speaker A:Everybody's shooting.
Speaker A:Everybody's taking cover.
Speaker A:It's a show.
Speaker A:But the security guard decides he's gonna be a hero.
Speaker A:Right when Jack decides he's gonna be a hero.
Speaker A:And it's all bad.
Speaker A:All bad, both of them.
Speaker A:And so Dave's shooting Jack.
Speaker A:Jack's gonna do his thing.
Speaker A:But he flings Dave right as a security guard steps outside.
Speaker A:And security guard gets caught in Jack's Magic fling flash.
Speaker A:I don't know what you want to call it.
Speaker A:And he gets his head bonked real bad.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Dean chases Dave down the street.
Speaker B:He loses him.
Speaker B:And we come back, and this guard.
Speaker A:Is running down the streets of the city with a shotgun.
Speaker A:For the record.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Nobody, like, just.
Speaker B:Just full on out.
Speaker B:Just with my shotgun.
Speaker B:Just like.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And no badge or anything.
Speaker B:Out.
Speaker B:Never mind.
Speaker B:But this is just.
Speaker B:You know, it's just Dodge.
Speaker B:Dodge City.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:Just happens there.
Speaker B:And so when the guard is bleeding out, this is some.
Speaker B:The cast can't heal him because he's already dead.
Speaker B:And I'm like, what the.
Speaker B:Like, he had a head wound.
Speaker B:Like, you know, like, unless he died from the.
Speaker B:Like the sonic blast itself, that would be different.
Speaker B:But the.
Speaker B:Dave Mather isn't dead.
Speaker B:He's fine.
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker B:So why does it seem.
Speaker A:Well, the.
Speaker A:But I think that the security guard.
Speaker A:They show it bashed him against the.
Speaker B:Yeah, they show him hit his hat against it.
Speaker B:It's still a head wound.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Which Cass can heal.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So I think it was kind of.
Speaker B:I think it's kind of to set the story line up.
Speaker B:I don't like it.
Speaker B:I think it's unnecessarily mean scene.
Speaker A:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker B:So we go to the motel where poor Jack is now sitting on the bed by himself.
Speaker B:Because he's just like, what?
Speaker A:What?
Speaker B:How do I do?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Cass then asked if it's the first time that he's hurt somebody.
Speaker B:And Sam's like, no, it's not.
Speaker B:But it's the first time they didn't get back up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Just sad.
Speaker A:So Dean's like, well, maybe Sam and Cass should just take Jack back to the bump bunker because we got to get him out of town.
Speaker A:That's all there is to it.
Speaker A:And then Dean.
Speaker A:Dean's gonna stay and handle the ghoul.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, Dean, you know, solution for the problem is we're gonna run from the law.
Speaker B:So Jack is now officially Winchester and on the run from the law.
Speaker B:And so at.
Speaker B:Back at our mortuary, funeral home, whatever, Dave comes in and he's shot.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He's stumbling because he's been shot.
Speaker A:And he's like, I robbed a bank for you so you can go to that school and I'll come with you.
Speaker A:And she's like, wtf?
Speaker A:And he's like, yeah, we want you.
Speaker B:To do some effort, guys.
Speaker B:I mean, I want you to make a little effort, but this is too much effort.
Speaker A:Over the line.
Speaker A:Over the line.
Speaker A:And he's like, yeah, you know, I can pawn jewelry for concert tickets, but, you know, that's skipping town.
Speaker A:That's a lot more money.
Speaker A:Digging up bodies isn't going to cut it.
Speaker A:And this is when she finally realizes.
Speaker A:Wait, what?
Speaker A:You're the grave robber.
Speaker A:Wait.
Speaker A:And you killed that cop.
Speaker A:What the fuck, man?
Speaker A:And she is distraught, rightfully so.
Speaker A:And then he gets real mean and gross, and I don't like it.
Speaker A:And he's grabbing her and yelling at her a lot.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:No, not a fan of him.
Speaker B:And Athena is also not a fan of him anymore.
Speaker B:And he was like, no, we.
Speaker B:We're gonna get the hell out of Dodge.
Speaker B:But just then, a car pulls up, and it's.
Speaker A:Dean has pulled up.
Speaker A:And our sergeant is also outside waiting.
Speaker A:So Sergeant Joe is out there, and basically the clerk at the bank said that the robber sounded like Athena's boyfriend.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:And the prints from the truck match the ones at the bank, so this all makes sense.
Speaker A:And his place is empty, so here he is.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, cool, I'm here for the same reason.
Speaker A:And he's like, by the way, Sergeant, you're not wearing a badge.
Speaker B:And he's like, I don't need one.
Speaker B:And Dean.
Speaker B:Dean tells him that he's not taking this dude alive.
Speaker B:And the Sarge says, neither has he.
Speaker B:Neither is he.
Speaker B:And Dean tells him to aim for the head.
Speaker B:And now we find that we are back to where we started this episode.
Speaker B:And the Sarge is getting taken down the tunnel, which now we see what Dean was so upset about, as we all are, is that he's gonna reluctantly go into here.
Speaker B:And this.
Speaker A:Just don't want to go to tunnels in a graveyard.
Speaker A:That sounds terrible.
Speaker B:That have been, like, dug up by a ghoul.
Speaker B:These do not feel like they are.
Speaker A:Structurally sound at all.
Speaker A:At all.
Speaker A:No pass.
Speaker A:And I don't.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't like the idea, like, crawling in tunnels.
Speaker A:I'm not super claustrophobic, but it's very upset.
Speaker B:No, I don't.
Speaker B:I also like, that is too much.
Speaker B:It's too, like.
Speaker B:I've had to forget what that crawl is called.
Speaker B:I guess it's army crawl.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Where you have to, like, do, like.
Speaker A:Not a fan.
Speaker B:Not a fan of it.
Speaker B:Especially if you have boobs, too.
Speaker B:Like, when you have boobs, it's even worse.
Speaker B:And then they're, like, getting, like, stuck.
Speaker B:And you're like, oh, you just drag your titties along.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker A:No one wants to drag their titties along.
Speaker B:Nobody wants to drag their titties along, not even Dean.
Speaker B:But he's gonna do it.
Speaker B:And before we do that, though, we're gonna go back on the road where Sam just asked Jack if he's doing okay.
Speaker B:And they're trying to make things better, but it's just not working.
Speaker A:It's not working.
Speaker A:And they're, like, you know, they're trying to tell them a story, you know, like, hey, you know, it doesn't.
Speaker A:It doesn't hurt less, but.
Speaker A:But, you know, it doesn't mean you don't stop fighting, because you made a mistake, and you can always do better.
Speaker A:You got to believe in it.
Speaker A:And he's just like, stop.
Speaker A:Please stop.
Speaker A:Please stop.
Speaker B:Please stop.
Speaker B:Please stop helping.
Speaker B:Please stop.
Speaker B:Like, whatever you're trying to tell me, the fact that you have killed other people is not making me feel better.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:But they still believe in him, which is, you know, I guess you, like, they're.
Speaker B:They're in a bad place.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But we're gonna get back to the tunnels.
Speaker B:The mortuary, because they have led in, shockingly in.
Speaker B:Into the.
Speaker B:Into the funeral.
Speaker A:The basement where she does her work.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Dean finds Athena's tied up.
Speaker A:And she's like, what the is going on?
Speaker A:And he's like, your boyfriend's not a human.
Speaker A:And Sarge is there, but he's injured, and he's.
Speaker A:That he was tossed around like a rag doll.
Speaker A:Dave appears.
Speaker A:Then he is there, of course, and he has Dean put his hands up.
Speaker A:Up.
Speaker A:And Athena's like, no, don't.
Speaker B:And Dave's like, it's for us.
Speaker B:She's like, there is no us.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, oh, breakup's a. Anyways, it's funny.
Speaker B:So Dave comps Dean for coming down without a gun and how he isn't fast enough.
Speaker B:And then Dean gets to quip in that.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:No, but he is.
Speaker B:And he steps aside, and the sergeant is there, and he blows Dave everywhere and all over every great one.
Speaker A:And Dean says to Dave's headless body, happy trails, cowboy.
Speaker A:Because of course he does.
Speaker A:He has to do it.
Speaker A:Oh, so ridiculous, Dean.
Speaker A:So ridiculous.
Speaker A:So Sergeant Dean walked through the cemetery, and he's like, so, what happened?
Speaker A:And he's like, a guy named Dave killed the deputy, and then he tried to kill you, and you shot him dead, and I was never here.
Speaker A:And security guard at the bank.
Speaker A:Dave killed him, too.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Bye.
Speaker A:Bye.
Speaker B:Which, you know, it is a nice, neat package, but I feel, you know, like I'm surprised the Sergeant's going to let the security guard go that easy?
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker B:And then we'll circle back to that.
Speaker A:Too easy to believe it.
Speaker A:With less.
Speaker A:It's easier to believe that way.
Speaker B:It's easier to believe that way.
Speaker B:But knowing that that man had family and, you know, small town, right?
Speaker B:So, like, wanting to hold somebody accountable?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:No, but it's even easier, though, because it's like, he's dead.
Speaker A:We killed him.
Speaker A:We already got our vengeance.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:All right, so.
Speaker B:So back at the bunker.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, yeah.
Speaker A:You know, killed the bad guy, saved the girl and took care of it.
Speaker A:And they're like, oh, they know that took care of it means that they covered for Jack.
Speaker A:And he's like, wait, what?
Speaker A:Tell me about the security guard.
Speaker A:What was his name?
Speaker A:Did he have a family?
Speaker A:And he's like, yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, had a family.
Speaker A:So Jack's upset, and Sam's trying to once again continue making it better, explain that what they do is not easy.
Speaker A:And we've all done things that we regret.
Speaker A:And Jack's just like, Did I tell.
Speaker B:You about the time that I drank demon blood?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:No, baby.
Speaker A:And Jack's just like, I know y' all are afraid of me.
Speaker A:Maybe I am a monster.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, no, I thought you were.
Speaker A:But, like.
Speaker A:But you.
Speaker A:But you're not.
Speaker A:We've all done bad, and we've all got blood on our hands.
Speaker A:And if you're a monster, we're all monsters.
Speaker A:That's a very, like.
Speaker A:It's a very dark but.
Speaker A:And weird and sad, but sweet come around for Dean.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:At least now he's giving Jack a chance.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And Jack, though, is still upset because he just can't hear this right now.
Speaker B:And he is stuck in the idea that every time he tries to do something good, something bad happens.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he's like, look, I.
Speaker A:If I stay.
Speaker A:If I stay, I'm gonna hurt all of you.
Speaker A:And I can't do that because you're all I have.
Speaker A:I have to go.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker A:Then he flings them all.
Speaker A:Zaps them all the floor.
Speaker A:And then he disappears.
Speaker B:He teleports away.
Speaker A:Rude.
Speaker B:And Cass is screaming for him, and.
Speaker B:But he's gone.
Speaker A:He is gone.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's where we leave.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker B:So before we get into our final thoughts in this episode, do we have rockabilly chicks and ghoul boys?
Speaker A:Casting couch.
Speaker B:Is the casting couch.
Speaker C:Were they on that show that time with that guy?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Athena Lopez was played by Sarah Troyer, and she's been in episodes of why Wona Earp, A Good Doctor, and a lot of Hallmark movies and some voice work as well.
Speaker A:Our Dave Mather was played by Jonathan Cherry.
Speaker A:He's been in episodes of CSI New York and Miami.
Speaker A:He was Rory in Final Destination 2, Rudy in House of the Dead, and then he has Willie in the movies Wolf Cop.
Speaker A:And another Wolf Cop.
Speaker A:Sarge was played by Eric Schweg.
Speaker A:He's been in episodes of elementary and Flash.
Speaker A: He was Darren in the: Speaker A:He was Uncas in Last of the Mohicans.
Speaker A:Oh, gosh, I'm gonna say it wrong.
Speaker A: nt in the Scarlet Letter, the: Speaker A:As a newer film, our.
Speaker A:Our officer, Carl Phillips was played by Paul Grenier, and he's been episodes of the 100 and Maid.
Speaker A:And Lenny was the name of our security guard, played by Jason Asuncion.
Speaker A:He's done some stunt work, including in Men in the High Castle, Men, man in the High Castle, Excuse Me, and episodes of Almost Human, Minority Report, Bates Motel, Siren, Batwoman, Charmed, Superman and Lois, so Help Me Todd, Nancy Drew and Murder in a Small Town.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:It was a fun cast.
Speaker B:I mean, I like, you know, obviously, obviously I'm never gonna be mad at a rockabilly psychobilly girl, like, coming in as, like, our main character.
Speaker B:I wish she was less damsel in distress in the end.
Speaker B:Like, she just ends up getting tied up and the bad guy goes after her.
Speaker B:You know, it's kind of like, you.
Speaker A:Know, it doesn't bother me as much.
Speaker A:I just wanted a little more of her in general, I think, because also, like, I was, you know, it's love, love.
Speaker A:A.
Speaker A:A believable subcultural character.
Speaker A:That's what I was.
Speaker A:Yes, I always love that.
Speaker A:But, yeah, no, I hear what you're saying, and I think it would have.
Speaker B:Been nice to see her fight back a little bit.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:I mean, I know she kind of didn't.
Speaker B:She was sticking up for herself, but it's just like she just ends up tied to a chair.
Speaker B:Really.
Speaker B:Like, that sucks, man.
Speaker B:Like, come on, let her do something cool.
Speaker B:Let her, like, get her something slapping.
Speaker A:Real good once or something.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I feel like she needs some closure for this relationship that now she's just not gonna get because he's, you know, been blasted everywhere, all over her.
Speaker A:Ew.
Speaker B:And of course, you know, the boys have just left her.
Speaker B:Like, left probably also just left him splattered everywhere and left her to clean up that mess.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Maybe sergeant will be nice and come and help her out.
Speaker A:I mean, I'd like to think he would.
Speaker A:He seemed like a nice.
Speaker A:Nice Ish.
Speaker B:It seems like a small town, right?
Speaker B:Like the town like Dodge is.
Speaker B:I guess that is a small town like they all come to.
Speaker B:Will they come together and help you clean up your boyfriend.
Speaker B:Oops.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker B:The ghoul.
Speaker C:Your ghoul.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:But yeah, it was fun music too.
Speaker A:I appreciate it.
Speaker B:So, yeah, it was fun music.
Speaker B:So obviously nod to things that, you know, we like and, you know, where we don't have to explain to somebody what an upright basis.
Speaker B:It's like, oh, how nice, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So behind me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And the storyline itself, I think was cute.
Speaker B:So I like the western nod without it being like as like westerny as we, you know, or time travel.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So that was fun.
Speaker B:The Jack storyline, though, that is.
Speaker B:It's just so painful because we're pulling.
Speaker B:We're all pulling for Jack and then to.
Speaker B:Because you're making us have this empathy for this new.
Speaker B:This new entity.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Our celestial man being.
Speaker B:And you're make.
Speaker B:Giving us.
Speaker B:You're making us care for him and then you keep hurting him, which sucks.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Fully agree.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think that part was really hard.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:Don't love that element of the storyline right now.
Speaker A:I'm sure we'll resolve or revisit it soon, but I think that the.
Speaker A:I didn't.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't love how this went for Jack.
Speaker A:I think it was unfair.
Speaker A:Not that anything's fair, but, you know.
Speaker B:Well, I also think it's unfair or uncool to have Jack and Cassiel finally meet and then take that be over so fast.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker B:So we got very little of any of that ball bonding or in any of that stuff, which I feel like we've been building up developmentally.
Speaker B:Good for.
Speaker B:For a man baby.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker B:Even if it is Cass.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Do you want to.
Speaker B:You want Cass to be the one who's like teaching you lessons about.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't know, man.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:But so.
Speaker A:So yeah, I like the storyline in general.
Speaker A:That was a fun monster of the week, for sure.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I agree with you.
Speaker A:I don't love how they managed the Jack.
Speaker A:How the.
Speaker A:The turn of the Jack story.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker B:All right, so I think on that note.
Speaker B:Cheers shirt.
Speaker A:Cheers back.
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