13:08 The Scorpion and the Frog
It's Season 13, Episode 8: The Scorpion and the Frog. Who is the scorpion in this analogy? It doesn't matter. It's a heist episode! And who doesn't love a heist? Liz gives some heist lore, talking about Olivera Ćirković and the international jewel thieves, the Pink Panthers.
Research Links
- Infamous International: The Pink Panthers Story — EXACTLY RIGHT
- Pink Panthers (organized crime group) - Wikipedia
- MetFilm teams up with United Media for doc on Yugoslav criminal mastermind Olivera Ćirković | News | C21Media
- Olivere Cirković's life story | Scene
- Queen Panther breaks her silence and tells all about her life as an international jewel thief | The Independent
Transcript
On this week's episode of Double Strap podcast.
Speaker A:Where did they get all the angel blades?
Speaker B:And we have a heist.
Speaker B:Let's do this.
Speaker B:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker B:I'm Diana.
Speaker A:I'm Liz.
Speaker B:And this week we're going to talk about season 13, episode 8, the scorpion and the Frog.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:The story of the scorpion and the frog.
Speaker A:So it's not a song and it's not something quirky.
Speaker A:It's just a fable where a scorpion asks a frog to take it across the river.
Speaker A:And the frog's like, I don't know, man, you're a scorpion.
Speaker A:And the scorpion is like, dude, why would I sting you?
Speaker A:If I sting you, we'll both drown.
Speaker A:And the frog is like, I guess that makes sense.
Speaker A:So then he goes, hop on my back.
Speaker A:So then as they're going across the river, the scorpion stings a frog.
Speaker A:And the frog is like, why, man?
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:And he's like, because I'm a scorpion.
Speaker A:And then they die.
Speaker B:That's a sad story.
Speaker B:It is, but.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it means that a scorpion can't change its.
Speaker A:Its stinger, and it'll just.
Speaker A:It'll always sting you.
Speaker B:Always sting you.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Don't trust a scorpion.
Speaker B:It's like a tiger can't change the stripes kind of thing.
Speaker A:Kind of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Ish.
Speaker A:Except that you die.
Speaker B:Oh, well, what have you been up to, Liz?
Speaker A:You're like, on that happy note, would you die?
Speaker A:So I guess in preparation for my birthday week, I got a creative cosmology tarot reading where we took.
Speaker A:She took my birth chart and then looked at it, like, in.
Speaker A:With.
Speaker A:In relation to all the houses that map to the different astrological signs, I guess is the way to say it.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:So it'd be like.
Speaker A:So I know I got a whole.
Speaker A:Like, she gave.
Speaker A:Sent me a whole chart on it.
Speaker A:And so, like, you know, goes through, like, just like any astrology thing where they, you know, they do your chart and where.
Speaker A:Where, like, you know, I've got.
Speaker A:Cancer is in my.
Speaker A:My rising and Taurus rising and sun cancer, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:But so Venus, though, is in Gemini at 15 degrees.
Speaker A:And so that means that she looks at Venus first because it's a planet and goddess of creativity, beauty, art, aesthetics, and culture.
Speaker A:And that's information for your creative soul.
Speaker A:And so she looks to see where Venus is in my chart, and Venus is in Gemini at 15 degrees.
Speaker A:And so then that means, like, certain things, huh?
Speaker A:Based on something ancient.
Speaker A:She did say there was Ancient power.
Speaker A:Ancient things.
Speaker B:Ancient power.
Speaker A:I don't know if she used the word power, but, you know, like, if you go further back in astrology and you look at them like, is that really what you're doing?
Speaker A:That's cool if it is, but.
Speaker A:So it was a fun, it was a fun way to, to spend an hour and just think about what is, you know, so the creative cosmology.
Speaker A:Then she ends up with, besides what I get read from the chart, I get a little package and it talks about what my creative style and interests are based on, based on my chart and how my creative pace and space work, where my creative flow and direction comes from and where it goes and what the bigger picture is.
Speaker A:So it was kind of a cool thing to think about.
Speaker A:Like, is, you know, going through my creative journey and figuring out, you know, where, where I'm flowing as an artist.
Speaker B:And that's a little more targeted and like, focused in.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think she also really wants to, like, help me with marketing because we talked a lot about Patreon and different other paths of like, how to sell the book and who would be interested in, you know, in that, in that line, who's interested in the book, who's interested in the podcast, how I can bring those together.
Speaker A:So a lot of it was pretty practical.
Speaker A:And there is that thing where she offers like more like there's mentorships and stuff that I could join afterwards.
Speaker A:And I had this happen with my last astrology person who is also a really good.
Speaker A:Well, I really like her too.
Speaker A:But I feel like.
Speaker A:And I know that's kind of the astrology game, right?
Speaker A:It's not just the.
Speaker A:I read your chart once I make my living.
Speaker A:If you're coming to me and you're consulting for different things.
Speaker A:So I understand that.
Speaker A:But it still kind of feels like not like multi level marketing, but it's still like there's a sales pitch in it because there has to be.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:I mean, it's just what they, it's how they're making their living.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I don't, you know, I don't.
Speaker A:I was aware of it.
Speaker A:Like, I don't like.
Speaker A:But not putting her down for doing it.
Speaker A:No, it's just, just like.
Speaker A:Oh, like aware, you know, so it was still a fun thing to do.
Speaker B:That is fun.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:That's exciting.
Speaker B:It's your birthday week.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker A:So just so you guys know, all of our dozens of avid listeners, that next week we will, we'll be taking a week off.
Speaker A:I don't know if we'll put anything in.
Speaker A:In the queue or in there, but, yeah, we're going to take the week off just so I can go to Lily Dale, the home of the spiritualists, and nerd out.
Speaker A:Or as the.
Speaker A:The astrologer said in my things that I like to dork out.
Speaker A:And, you know, I appreciate that.
Speaker A:You know, I appreciate that being a part of my personality is dorking out.
Speaker B:That's reasonable.
Speaker A:That's reasonable.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, that seems accurate.
Speaker A:And I'm like, are you saying this because of my chart?
Speaker A:Because of what I told you that I do?
Speaker B:Or both.
Speaker A:Or both.
Speaker A:Did you just naturally take a guess that I was going to be a nerd?
Speaker B:Is that.
Speaker B:I don't know how I'd feel about that.
Speaker B:I'll take it, I guess, if it.
Speaker A:Was me, but yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And what else?
Speaker A:Everything else is been.
Speaker A:Mainly hoop stuff.
Speaker A:I did my new.
Speaker A:I did a new type of hoop, which is the lollipop lira, which is basically a lollipop, a lira hoop on top of a stripper pole.
Speaker A:And it's much.
Speaker A:It's very different, you know.
Speaker A:You know, being on a hoop with a stick up your ass.
Speaker A:And it's the hoop that I normally am on.
Speaker A:We usually tape them, although not all of them are taped.
Speaker A:But so think about hanging on to a circle that has tape all over it or hanging on to one that's just like a monkey bar.
Speaker A:Like that type of material.
Speaker A:It is very different.
Speaker A:A very different kind of gripping situation.
Speaker A:So I'm trying to.
Speaker A:Still trying to figure out how to do the right grip and not like, slip my hands all the way off.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And the other thing that's kind of scary about it because it's.
Speaker A:They're mounted on, you know, so it's a hoop mounted on a stick, and the stick is on a stage.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And there's no padding.
Speaker A:There's no mat on that stage.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker A:So there's no crash mat.
Speaker A:There's no crash mat underneath that hoop.
Speaker A:So I'm not falling off.
Speaker A:You can't fall off.
Speaker A:So is.
Speaker A:But that.
Speaker A:That does make things a little.
Speaker A:It made things a little scarier.
Speaker A:But yeah, it was.
Speaker A:It was cute because the class is like an hour long and there's only one lollipop lira.
Speaker A:For.
Speaker A:They had four people in class, so we had to take turns.
Speaker A:And she.
Speaker A:And she.
Speaker A:In order to make sure we got our money, had.
Speaker A:She's like, had these like, conditioning stations, you know, like, so you can work on abs and do Planks or whatever.
Speaker A:And then she was like, y' all don't seem to be into doing that.
Speaker A:We're like, no, no, really don't.
Speaker A:Like I'm cool with just sitting here.
Speaker B:When I'm not waiting my turn.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker A:I'm just waiting my turn.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I don't need to be exercising for a pure hour.
Speaker A:And I know she's like, you know, you paid for this class so you should get what you pay for.
Speaker A:But also I'm.
Speaker A:I'm quite okay with sitting and waiting my turn.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So what about you?
Speaker A:What have you been up to?
Speaker B:I have not been up to much.
Speaker B:I was under the weather this weekend.
Speaker B:So I did not leave my house from about Friday mid morning really until for a minute Sunday morning and then that was it.
Speaker B:So it was a very low key few days for me.
Speaker B:So I have nothing exciting to say about that.
Speaker A:Did you watch anything?
Speaker B:What did I watch?
Speaker B:Yeah, I mean I've been watching School Spirits.
Speaker B:I've been making some progress on that.
Speaker B:I didn't get too far though.
Speaker B:I'm still getting through it.
Speaker A:That's about it.
Speaker A:Yeah, I. I finished L. And so.
Speaker A:Hi.
Speaker A:I don't know, I think you.
Speaker A:I don't recommend it for everybody.
Speaker A:It was like I would have to talk to each of you personally and tell you whether or not it was recommended for you.
Speaker A:The thing I will.
Speaker A:It is because it's very specific and there.
Speaker A:Because there's different things about it that I think would appeal to different people.
Speaker A:But there's specific things I think would turn other people off because it's very.
Speaker A:It is very high school focused.
Speaker A:But I don't mind a high school story and I know other people who do.
Speaker A:That does not bother and.
Speaker A:But in particular this high school was set in Seattle during the grunge times and they really like went full on out and made it a super spooky high school that I wish really existed and that I could have had the chance to go to.
Speaker B:Like I did watch this weekend.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:So yeah, I mean it's World cup time still.
Speaker B:So I mean I did watch soccer so something.
Speaker B:So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker B:Or football as they call it in other places.
Speaker A:Anyways.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, cool.
Speaker B:Well, let's jump on in to our episode.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:The great, great Robert Singer.
Speaker A:The last time he directed for this show was in season 12.
Speaker A:And he did quite a few that season.
Speaker A:The top three being the foundry.
Speaker A:Actually, we only did three that season.
Speaker A:The foundry, episode three, first blood, episode nine, and episode 23, all along the watchtower.
Speaker A:He's already done one.
Speaker A:The season 13.
Speaker A:He did episode three, patience.
Speaker A:This was written by Meredith Glenn.
Speaker A:And this season she did 13, episode four, the Big Empty.
Speaker A:And then last season she did Ladies Drink Free.
Speaker A:And then she did the Future with Robert Barrons as well.
Speaker A:So in our recap, we've got the shootout where Jack killed a guard.
Speaker A:Jack is running away.
Speaker A:Lucifer had death slam.
Speaker A:Then there's evil Colonel Sanders who is on the hunt for Jack.
Speaker A:Evil catch is not dead.
Speaker A:He's also not an evil twin.
Speaker A:And then cast where he protect Jack.
Speaker A:And that's where we go.
Speaker A:And then we're going to start off in Cambridge, England at 7:45pm on a Friday.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And we've got a woman entering the Cambridge museum and she just, you know, casually strolls back into the staff only area while the museum's closing and has the code to go into the archive room.
Speaker B:Super casual, but it doesn't seem to work.
Speaker B:But it kind of does.
Speaker B:She just like shove it open, still digs through, finds two parchments put is like obsessing over them as.
Speaker B:So it takes way too long to put them in her purse.
Speaker B:So security catches her.
Speaker A:Well, and finally like these parchment and scrolls are in plastic.
Speaker A:What the.
Speaker A:There's no way that an ancient piece of parchment is gonna be put in non archival plastic.
Speaker A:There's no way this, this would ever exist.
Speaker A:And then the guard comes in, he's like, what the are you doing?
Speaker A:But because he's British, he's like in the nicest way, he's like, madam, why?
Speaker A:What.
Speaker A:What's going on?
Speaker B:Yeah, and then he.
Speaker B:Then she's a de.
Speaker B:Well, she's possessed by demons.
Speaker B:The demon shoots out of her and cock smokes out of her into the security guard.
Speaker B:And so then he just picks up the bag and goes and meets this dude in an alley where he hands off the parchments and is like, oh well, as mod as Modeus reward us.
Speaker B:And then he gets stabbed with an angel blade.
Speaker A:Does everyone just have an angel blade now?
Speaker A:I feel like they are just like these things maybe have to do with like fall, but it feels like everybody.
Speaker B:Has, everybody has one now.
Speaker A:And I feel like these should be harder to come by for demons, I don't know.
Speaker A:So like they were just finding out about them.
Speaker A:Like, you know, in one of These seasons.
Speaker A:And now all the demons have them.
Speaker A:Anyways, so that man, who we don't know at this point, calls Dean Winchester, and he tells him he's got something he might be interested in.
Speaker A:And then we go to the bunker where Dean is vigorously cleaning his gun.
Speaker B:Apparently not for the first time, because Sam comes in and has a report and talks, you know, gives him a hard time about his cleaning his gun.
Speaker B:But then also, they discussed that there's no sign of Catch or Jack.
Speaker B:But then Dean's phone rings, and this is the call that we just saw.
Speaker B:And it's a British guy saying he's got something for him.
Speaker B:And Dean's like, no.
Speaker B:And the guy's like, oh, but I know about your Nephilim.
Speaker B:And word on the street that it's gone rogue.
Speaker B:And Dean's like, what street?
Speaker A:He's like, hell street.
Speaker B:And that's kind of funny.
Speaker B:I have some use delays.
Speaker B:But basically, he's.
Speaker B: d to meet me at your diner at: Speaker A:And then they're walking down the streets of Lebanon, Kansas, because that's where the bunkers are.
Speaker A:And so they pass Bangtown, Hair Saloon and several other storefronts.
Speaker A:And the scene was filmed on the 400 block of West Pender street in Vancouver.
Speaker A:And all the businesses and signage showed, including the diner, are the actual stores on that street.
Speaker A:Oh, neat.
Speaker B:So they get to the diner, and this dude is waiting for them.
Speaker B:And he knows them as the famous Winchesters and introduces himself as Barthemas.
Speaker B:But he can be Bart, but he's a demon.
Speaker B:And he has pie ordered for Dean because he knows the way to Dean's attention.
Speaker B:But it's like, look, I've been following you.
Speaker B:Your natural disruptors like me.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker B:And he's like, but here's what I've got for you is a genuine Nephilim tracking spell.
Speaker B:And I'm a crossroads demon, so I make deals, so.
Speaker B:So don't trust me, But I need something in return for this.
Speaker B:For half of the spell.
Speaker B:I'll give you half of it now, and then you can have the other half later.
Speaker B:And Dean's like, we just need to.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And he's not just like the.
Speaker A:A crossroads demon.
Speaker A:He is the king.
Speaker A:He is the king of the crossroads now.
Speaker A:So he just want to make sure we got that in there.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker B:Bart's like, hey, Sam, why don't you, like, research this parchment?
Speaker B:Because you're the one with the brains, and you can Tell if it's legit or not.
Speaker B:And then he leaves and Dean actually gets.
Speaker A:Yeah, he actually gets to eat his pie for a change, which is nice.
Speaker A:So back in the bunker, Sam has the spell and thinks it's check out.
Speaker A:Checks out is Kane and I dating back to the Queen of Sheba, who, according to the lore, was half angel.
Speaker A:And no, we're not doing lore on the Queen of Sheba.
Speaker A:Although thought about it.
Speaker A:But I will say, nowhere in the lore that is Wikipedia does it mention anything about her being in Nephilim.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker A:Okay, at least that part's.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That is supernatural lore.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But basically what happened is that King Solomon created a spell to track his girlfriend because he was a creep.
Speaker A:And so the spell was.
Speaker A:Should work if they get the other half.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So they go meet Bart at a industrial site because of course they do.
Speaker B:And Bart is there with two other people sitting at a table with some photos and things attached to a board and introduces them to smash and grab.
Speaker A:And smash is a safe cracker.
Speaker A:Grab is a demon who can get past any supernatural boarding.
Speaker A:And we're like, wait, a safe cracker?
Speaker A:What is this a heist?
Speaker A:Wait, is this a heist?
Speaker A:Is this a heist episode?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yes, it is.
Speaker A:And does that mean there's heist lore?
Speaker A:Yes, it does.
Speaker A: main sources for lore are our: Speaker A:So our high Schooler today centers around a member of an international dual pink organization of Pink Panthers.
Speaker A: their heist between the early: Speaker A:They have robbed across Europe and Asia.
Speaker A:When they committed Britain's largest jewel heist, stealing $40 million in precious stones.
Speaker A:They hid one of the jewels in a jar of cold cream, which earned them the nickname the Pink Panthers, because that was what happened happened in the Pink Panther movie.
Speaker A:Sorry if that was obvious to you, but.
Speaker A:So the Pink Panthers have no organized chain of command, but rather are a network of loosely organized small teams, mostly from former Yugoslavia and many Bosnian war veterans.
Speaker A:Each cell has an area of operation.
Speaker A: Minutes in: Speaker A:A typical attack can be over in under a minute and is usually carried out with military precision.
Speaker A:In Dubai, they drove two Audis, one of them backwards into a mall, and they smashed Into a jewelry store, stole a bunch of diamonds and then got out in 45 seconds.
Speaker B:That's crazy.
Speaker B:It's pretty epic.
Speaker B:Bad.
Speaker A:Crime is bad.
Speaker A:So how does one become a member of the Pink Panthers?
Speaker A:Well, for the Serbian, Oliveira Cirkovich, I don't think that's right.
Speaker A:So it started with the career in professional basketball.
Speaker A:She grew up in Belgrade and had what was called an idyllic child for Yugoslavia and then became a top Yugoslav basketball player.
Speaker A: In: Speaker A:She was a fierce power forward and did well both in the core and in her finances, investing and owning multiple businesses.
Speaker A:In Athens, she would meet her future ex husband, a man in the previously mentioned Pink Panthers.
Speaker A:At first, her husband wanted her to keep her nose clean.
Speaker A:But over time, Oliveira became increasingly friendly with her husband's associates.
Speaker A:Then she got pregnant, not by the associates, by her husband, but.
Speaker A:And she went back to Belgrade, where the black market had emerged during the sanctions and remained after they were lifted.
Speaker A:So the things that people in Serbia wanted came from the west.
Speaker A:And there was a resentment towards the west over the sanctions, which in turn created the attitude that even though stealing is wrong, the west is rich and owes them, so fuck it, so you might as well steal.
Speaker A:It's just kind of an attitude that's kind of prevalent in Serbia.
Speaker A:So Oliveira could also do math and saw the opportunity to buy stolen items at a third of the market value using her existing legitimate businesses as a front.
Speaker A:I made a decent amount of money in sports, but crime affected me.
Speaker A:It's the fastest way to make a fortune.
Speaker A:I realized I could earn an entire annual basketball contract in one day, she said to the independent.
Speaker A:She established connections with partners who smuggled illicit goods such as high end apparel and jewelry into Serbia.
Speaker A:Oliveira had her own showroom for sparkly wares, and even politicians and doctors and the famous would come to see her offerings.
Speaker A:Soon, she outpaced her suppliers for what they could provide, and she wanted more input into what items were being imported.
Speaker A:So, like, she, like, I don't, I don't want last month's Gucci bag.
Speaker A:I, you know, or I want this certain line that's coming out, you know.
Speaker A:So she kept getting deeper and deeper into it until she was running the teams, organizing, recruiting and vetting team members.
Speaker A:She would make sure everyone knew the logistics and surveillance of the stores would go on for weeks before it hit.
Speaker A:She disciplined her team like a sports team.
Speaker A: By the late: Speaker A:She also said that her teams live by a code.
Speaker A:Again from the independent.
Speaker A:I am not justifying myself, but within the heist, I still imposed a moral code of conduct, preferably at night, when no staff are present.
Speaker A:Loot without weapons, where possible, use minimal force, no hurting people, and no stealing from the poor.
Speaker A:Exclusively designer and jewelry stores which have the insurance to protect them.
Speaker A:There was no violence in the actions I planned.
Speaker A:If there was, it was very little.
Speaker A:If we did use weapons, they were fake.
Speaker A:We always anticipated arrest, and we knew a fake weapon would reduce our sentences.
Speaker A:So after she left her husband, she fell in love with a man 10 years her junior named Dragon, who ran a team of jewel thieves in Athens.
Speaker A:And this is like, girl, nothing good ever comes from dating a man named Dragon.
Speaker A:It's just not going to end well.
Speaker A:We know this, so.
Speaker A:But she decided that it was time for her to do a jewel heist.
Speaker A:And her role on the team was mainly surveillance, so she could enter the jewelry store at a luxury hotel dressed like a rich customer, which she was, right.
Speaker A:And so she would go in and they would fawn all over her, show her all the expensive things while she is, like, going, oh, over there, that's where your camera is.
Speaker A:There's this many security guards.
Speaker A:This is where all your good stuff is.
Speaker A:And then going back and telling that to the team afterwards.
Speaker A:So they did actually have a successful robbery, but unfortunately, afterwards, they were busted during a routine traffic stop because Dragon's cutting tools were in the trunk.
Speaker A:Thanks, Dragon.
Speaker A:Olivera was also taken in, but she didn't snitch on anybody and was sentenced to six years in prison on the island of Crete.
Speaker A:She and Dragon both served their time, were released, but neither was the least bit reformed.
Speaker A: In March of: Speaker A:Unfortunately for them, at the same time that they were robbing one store, somebody decided to rob the store next door.
Speaker A:And the cop showed up for those other people.
Speaker A:So then things just went haywire.
Speaker A:And then there were shooting, and they were guns, and dragon was shot three times.
Speaker A:He ended up in a coma for 40 days.
Speaker A:Now Oliveira escaped, but in her sadness over her lost honey bunny, she holed up in their safe house, where she was caught along with a bunch of masks, wigs, fake identifications, and other evidence of their crime.
Speaker A:And she was sent back to prison while incarcerated.
Speaker A:This time, she started painting, and she was quite good at it and was soon decorating the gloomy prison walls.
Speaker A:I liked being busy drawing and painting, allowed me to unleash the sorrows of everyday prison life.
Speaker A:It was the only thing that could save and help me.
Speaker A:She started getting special privileges and talked her way into painting the governor's office and having a friend deliver art supplies.
Speaker A:Oliveira told the Independent.
Speaker A:The prison staff got used to me walking around quite freely.
Speaker A:I was painting the halls near the main doors, freedom on the other side.
Speaker A:The wardens began losing the sense that I was a prisoner.
Speaker A:Using the prison phone, I called my friend, a fellow Panther, to pretend to deliver oil paints.
Speaker A:I explained the situation, layout and how a guard would accompany me to the main doors to pick up the art supplies.
Speaker A:On the day of the escape, two associates pulled up to the prison on motorcycles.
Speaker A:Her friend walked up to the prison's main door.
Speaker A:So guard said hello and the friend knocked him out.
Speaker A:Then they walked out to the waiting motorbikes and off they went.
Speaker A:None of the police officers outside batted an eyelid.
Speaker A:Because my friends and I walked so slowly and so calmly to the motorbikes.
Speaker A:They assumed we were civilians because lots of civilians come in and out of that prison, which is a weird thing to have happened.
Speaker A:But so it wasn't over.
Speaker A:She had to walk 150 miles through the mountains of Macedonia, only stopping to charge her phone and pick up supplies from contacts.
Speaker A:Along the way, she taped up her wrists and ankles like she was back at a championship game.
Speaker A:She made it to the border where a Macedonian cab driver took her into Serbia, which has no extradition with Greece.
Speaker A:And Oliveira became the only woman to escape, escape from a Greek prison.
Speaker A:The press eats it up and nicknamed Nicksame her the Spider lady and the Amazon.
Speaker A:And things honestly would have been just fine for her if she hadn't decided to return to Athens to do another job.
Speaker A:She was caught four days after the robbery with 65 pounds of gold, which seems really hard to hide.
Speaker A:This time she was sentenced to 32 years for 116 charges involving $500 million in goods and no art supplies this time.
Speaker A:So instead she started writing her memoir.
Speaker A:Her charges, though, were reduced and she was released in five years, but banned from ever returning to Greece.
Speaker A:They're like, no more.
Speaker A:You can't come back.
Speaker A:Although I don't think she was legitimately coming in before, but.
Speaker A:So Oliveira says she is done with the life of crime.
Speaker A:Her story is her enterprise now, and she does speaking engagements, YouTube and all the other social medias.
Speaker A:She wants to be a mentor to those in prison.
Speaker A:Her diaries have been published as three books.
Speaker A:I Pink Panther, not available in English and are being adapted into a TV show in Serbia.
Speaker A:And a London company has purchased the film rights because it is a pretty bunker story.
Speaker A:The Pink Panthers, though, are still at it.
Speaker A:Justice.
Speaker A:June.
Speaker A: valuables that took place in: Speaker A:And inside a Greek resort town.
Speaker A:A Thessalonic.
Speaker A:Some.
Speaker A:Some Greek resort town.
Speaker A:But anyways, that is the story of the Queen Panther Oliveira and her famous heist and escape from prison, which is pretty.
Speaker A:Pretty awesome and wild.
Speaker A:Heist.
Speaker A:Yeah, Heist.
Speaker A:And just the.
Speaker A:The whole Pink Panthers themselves.
Speaker A:And so there is a real.
Speaker A:I would recommend.
Speaker A:There is a documentary called Smash and Grab, which is funny considering the.
Speaker A:The people in this.
Speaker A:That is about the Pink Panthers, which is kind of how I got there.
Speaker A:And so I highly recommend watching that and seeing the rest of the stories of the highest.
Speaker A:The things they have pulled off are pretty crazy.
Speaker A:There was a Dateline episode on it, but it's Dateline episode that's not available.
Speaker A:Like on Peacock.
Speaker A:Like they'll like in that season.
Speaker A:Like they.
Speaker A:They skip that one because they're bastards.
Speaker A:Damn you, Keith Morrison.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:So back at our Smash and grabs.
Speaker A:Bart's there, and he's there to talk about their score.
Speaker A:And it's Luther Shrike.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Who apparently is paranoid, agoraphobic and lives off the grid and is a hoarder, specifically of rare supernatural objects.
Speaker B:And he has a mahogany trunk that belongs to Bart.
Speaker B:And it's locked up on this farm.
Speaker B:Bart can't go in because of all the wards.
Speaker B:And the only person that can open the vault that it's in is somebody.
Speaker B:The blood of a man who has been to Helen back.
Speaker B:So that's why he needs Dean.
Speaker B:Which Dean has a hell flashback here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And it's a very young Dean in hell too.
Speaker A:We're like, oh, you're such a baby when you were being tortured then.
Speaker A:It's so cute.
Speaker A:Little baby tornado a long time ago.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he can't just take a sample of Dean's blood.
Speaker B:It has to be quote, straight from the tap.
Speaker B:So Grab can locate it, the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The vault once they're on premises.
Speaker B:And then Smash can crack the safe that this is in.
Speaker B:And Sam and Dean are there to handle all the curveballs, because there's always curveballs.
Speaker B:So anyway, so that also means though, that Shrike, this guy, loser Shrike, can use his own blood to access this that means he has also been to hell.
Speaker B:And so Bart explains that yeah, he's human, but he's a sadist and a murderer.
Speaker B:And that's all you need to know.
Speaker B:So take the deal and we'll give you the second half of the spell.
Speaker B:And if you don't take my deal, I'm taking the whole spell to Asmodeus.
Speaker B:That's Bart's offer.
Speaker A:But he trusts that he trusts him less than the Winchester.
Speaker A:So Dean and Sam are going to debate over what to do.
Speaker A:And Sam says that they should screw them over first.
Speaker A:They should get the spel.
Speaker A:Kill them.
Speaker B:And so they're like.
Speaker B:Dean's like yes, let's do this.
Speaker B:So they need to plan a distraction.
Speaker B:So we cut to Shrikes.
Speaker A:Well, yeah.
Speaker A:So the bar says they will never see them coming.
Speaker A:Then it switches over to Luther.
Speaker A:Luther's ways where he says they are coming.
Speaker A:That's a lot of coming.
Speaker B:So this demon, Asmodeus's demon, is telling Luther Shrike that he should call as soon as Bart shows up.
Speaker B:And Shrike's like, no, I give orders, I don't take them.
Speaker B:And he makes the demon smoke out.
Speaker A:Well, he has trapped that demon in a.
Speaker A:In a demon.
Speaker A:Devil's in a devil's trap.
Speaker A:And so he's trapped him in a devil's trap.
Speaker A:And then he exercises him.
Speaker A:So he sends him to hell and then tells him to give.
Speaker A:That's why he's like, give my boss an order.
Speaker A:Order.
Speaker A:So outside then of Luther Baby pulls up and Sam says at the the gate that he is John Dortmunder who is a fictional character in the novels of Donald Westlake.
Speaker A:And he is a criminal whose careful plans usually go awry.
Speaker B:Oh well, he apparently has saying.
Speaker B:He says he has a family heirloom that they've emailed about.
Speaker B:In the meantime, Dean and Smash are cuddled up under a blanket in the background backseat hiding.
Speaker B:And Dean tells her, hey Winona, the 90s called and they like their shoes back.
Speaker B:She is a little Winona, I'm gonna give him that.
Speaker B:Also, her boots are flower ducks.
Speaker B:And they are.
Speaker B:They did re release those a couple of years ago.
Speaker B:And I distinctly remember because I almost bought a pair because I am scarred for life by those docs.
Speaker B:Because as a teen, teenage Diana used her little part time job money to save up and buy a pair of those flowered docs.
Speaker B:The ones that the re release of.
Speaker A:That she had for the record, but.
Speaker B:Bought those and wore them legit like once, maybe twice.
Speaker B:And then a stupid little troublemaker Friend asked to borrow them and she let them.
Speaker B:And they wore them to school once.
Speaker B:And then something happened and they got kicked out of school.
Speaker B:And Diana never saw that person or the boots again.
Speaker B:Oh, I'm mad about it still.
Speaker A:That's funny.
Speaker A:You know, it's like my first docs.
Speaker A:There were seven eyes, Steel toad.
Speaker A:They were not flowers.
Speaker A:But anyways, mine were flowered anyway.
Speaker A:So he rags on her.
Speaker A:Poor flower dogs.
Speaker A:But you're right.
Speaker A:I mean, she's.
Speaker A:We'll talk later about her.
Speaker A:Winona is.
Speaker A:But so she shushes him.
Speaker A:And Sam gets buzzed in.
Speaker A:And he stops down the driveway to let Dean and Smash out.
Speaker A:And Sam sold.
Speaker A:Dean tells Dean to not get dead.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Sam pulls up to the house and this house has very fancy burglar bars on it.
Speaker B:First of all, I thought they were very pretty and ornamental.
Speaker B:And also the front door is giant metal and covered in sigils.
Speaker B:So Dean gets buzzed in and the door just opens.
Speaker B:And the devil's trap is very clearly not covered.
Speaker B:Now on the floor where it was covered previously.
Speaker B:And Shrike just calls out that he's waiting in his office.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:And Sam just steps on the devil's trap.
Speaker A:And I get that you're not a demon, but I still wouldn't just step on random things I see painted on the floor.
Speaker A:I would just think, you know, if I'm in a stranger's house and I see something painted on the floor, I avoid stepping on it.
Speaker B:But also show Shrike that he's not a demon.
Speaker B:And that doesn't seem to be the case either.
Speaker B:Because Shrike wasn't watching this.
Speaker A:That's true, cuz.
Speaker A:But then Strike thinks he's a demon.
Speaker A:Luther thinks that he's a demon demon.
Speaker A:So wouldn't Luther know that he's not a demon?
Speaker A:Because he stepped on that and he didn't get stuck in it.
Speaker A:Anyways.
Speaker A:Okay, so Luther calls him to the room that we go back outside to the rain, where Smash and Dean are opening.
Speaker A:They go like a barn door.
Speaker A:Because of the barn?
Speaker B:Yeah, they own like a barn, basically.
Speaker B:And Dean's doing a demon summoning spell so they can get grab there.
Speaker B:And while he's doing that, Smash pulls out a can of nerve damage and takes a big sip and burps.
Speaker B:And Dean calls her.
Speaker B:Weird.
Speaker B:But then he also realizes what she's drinking.
Speaker B:And he recognizes it.
Speaker B:And he used to drink that when.
Speaker A:He was a kid.
Speaker B:And he's all excited about it.
Speaker A:Yeah, she had to buy it today.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's basically Like Jolt.
Speaker B:It's totally a Jolt Cola.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's totally a reference to Jolt Cola.
Speaker B:But I'm like, I don't know if I trust ebay sodas.
Speaker A:It's like people who sell the Dr. Pepper stuff on ebay too.
Speaker A:So anyway, so he gives her.
Speaker A:She gives him one.
Speaker A:And I also just don't think I'd want to drink that much caffeine before.
Speaker A:Like it's pretty late at night for.
Speaker A:So you're gonna up your sleep cycle.
Speaker A:But it's also before like I had to do some like safe cracking stuff.
Speaker A:I don't think I'd want to have the caffeine.
Speaker A:I think that's.
Speaker A:That's a little too jittery, but.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So they decide they're gonna.
Speaker A:They're gonna energy up.
Speaker A:And he then gets like little luxury and condescending and starts telling her that working for demons isn't a smart idea.
Speaker A:And she's like, no.
Speaker A:And it's not like she has it.
Speaker A:And he's like, I don't have a choice.
Speaker A:And she's like, same.
Speaker A:And then he's like, did you get in some kind of trouble?
Speaker A:Like, what the you think, Dean?
Speaker A:Seriously?
Speaker A:Yeah, she's just like working for a demons for the of it.
Speaker B:I mean, some people might.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:Yeah, but you clearly looking at her, she's.
Speaker A:Yeah, so.
Speaker A:But she also doesn't want to have this conversation at all.
Speaker A:And so it's like how long does this.
Speaker A:Is this gonna take?
Speaker A:And so he throws a match in and grab appears.
Speaker B:Yeah, and grabs like cool.
Speaker B:By the way, the vault is cloaked.
Speaker B:We need Dean's blood to locate it.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker B:It's like a. Oh gosh, I forgot the word.
Speaker B:Like a divining rod, right?
Speaker A:Yeah, a dividing rod.
Speaker A:So Dean's like, fine, dividing Ron dusting rod.
Speaker B:Yeah, so Dean's like, fine, whatever.
Speaker B:And they do a spell and then Dean.
Speaker B:It's just actually kind of hysterical scene.
Speaker B:Did some good acting.
Speaker B:It's good slapstick physical comedy.
Speaker B:As his hand, the blood in his hand basically is dragging the him around to point their direction of which way they need to go find the.
Speaker A:This vault.
Speaker B:It's funny.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:Back inside, Luther hand Sam some homemade gin, which Sam actually drinks.
Speaker A:And you're a braver man than I am.
Speaker A:Like, no, I'm not going to drink your gym sock gin.
Speaker A:And Sam's just like complimenting his collection.
Speaker A:And l. Luther is probably is testing him.
Speaker A:It's like, you ever seen a fang of the basilisk?
Speaker A:And Sam just smarts off as, like, you know, that's not a fang.
Speaker A:Those are hollow.
Speaker A:It's a gorgeous tooth.
Speaker A:And he's trying to stall and asking to see more of the collection, but Luther just pushes him off and says they should stick to business.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Sam's gonna open the box that he brought to show a one of a kind knife that can kill demons.
Speaker B:And it is the demon blade.
Speaker A:In the box, there is a deleted.
Speaker B:What they're using as their distraction.
Speaker A:Yeah, there is a deleted scene here.
Speaker A:More about the demon blade, where Sam is talking about how it's a family heirloom and he got it from his Aunt Ruby.
Speaker B:Oh, interesting.
Speaker A:Ah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:They deleted it.
Speaker A:So outside, they are stumbling through the woods, and Dean is just not happy with his hand guiding the way.
Speaker A:And they come to a cellar door which doesn't have a lock.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And not being locked is also concerning immediately for everybody.
Speaker B:So smash.
Speaker B:Opens the door, grabs like that.
Speaker B:I'm gonna talk shit.
Speaker B:So Dean and Smash go down, and they find the light switch quite easily.
Speaker B:It's like a workshop.
Speaker B:But then at the across.
Speaker B:The across it is this crazy, like, wooden door with a giant hog sculptural dog head.
Speaker B:It's a hogshead.
Speaker B:It's a sculpture.
Speaker B:It's a sculptural head on it.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:It's like a boar's head.
Speaker A:And his mouth is open and Dean's supposed to stick his hand in it.
Speaker A:And he is like, no, thanks.
Speaker A:And I'm also like, no, thanks.
Speaker A:And we cut from that back to the inside, where Luther is now asking Sam, you know, what's the price for my.
Speaker A:My.
Speaker A:This demon knife?
Speaker B:And Sam's like, yeah, it's whatever you said in your email.
Speaker B:And he's like, so Shrike's got a big old wad of cash.
Speaker B:But he's like, I know that's not what you're here for.
Speaker B:Bart sent you.
Speaker B:And he put puts the knife at Sam.
Speaker B:And he thinks that Sam is a demon.
Speaker B:So we are going to have a fight.
Speaker B:And the knife gets thrown away.
Speaker B:Shrike gets a shotgun.
Speaker B:It's a little crazy.
Speaker B:But finally, Sam gets the knife back and stabs Shrike in the gut with it.
Speaker B:And apparently, Bart failed to inform them that as long as he's on the property, he cannot die.
Speaker A:Also, Sam is.
Speaker A:You just killed this dude.
Speaker A:That's a little harsh, man.
Speaker A:Like, y' all are just fighting, but he's a human and you just killed him.
Speaker A:But, you know, you didn't really kill him.
Speaker A:But you kind of did.
Speaker A:And so then he smacks Sam.
Speaker A:He tried to.
Speaker A:And so then Luther strike.
Speaker A:Smack Sam with the gorgon tooth.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that knocks him out because.
Speaker A:Knocks his.
Speaker A:So now he's the one with this with a concussion.
Speaker A:And so Sam's a concussion.
Speaker A:Watch.
Speaker A:And we go to the cellar where Dean is still not wanting to stick his hand in because spiders.
Speaker B:There could be spiders, spidery things or snakes or spiders in that room.
Speaker B:And he doesn't want to stick his hand in there, but he finally hides himself up and he puts his hand in.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:It's another really.
Speaker B:It's a really good physical comedy scene for.
Speaker B:For.
Speaker B:For Jensen, quite frankly, because he gets to be really silly kind of about this.
Speaker B:He's really over acting about like putting his hand in.
Speaker B:And then it clamps down on his hand and he's like kind of freaking out.
Speaker B:And then all it does is barely prick his finger.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:Well, it's a lot of mechanical work too, because it sounds like it's going to be a whole lot.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, it's cool.
Speaker B:It's well done.
Speaker B:And then just a tiny little pin prick.
Speaker B:And then it opens.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:And we have a room with the floor covered in sigils.
Speaker B:It is very, very, very Indiana Jones.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Or as Dean will call it later, dollar store Indiana Jones crap.
Speaker A:And so grab yells at them, and he only.
Speaker A:But only to get caught by Luther, who stab demon knife, which he now has.
Speaker A:And Dean's ranting about the dollar store Indiana Jones crap.
Speaker A:And Luther shows up.
Speaker A:Smash.
Speaker A:Kicks him in the shins and runs past him.
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker A:Good for you.
Speaker A:And then Dean asks where Sam is.
Speaker A:And Luther says he's alive.
Speaker A:He's surprised that Bart has humans working for him.
Speaker A:Dean plocks a knife, pulls out his gun, says gun beats knife.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so how about you hand over the safe?
Speaker A:And then we'll be.
Speaker A:I'll be home in time to watch Game of Thrones catch for later.
Speaker A:And Luther says, I'm more of a book guy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then Sam is there and is like.
Speaker B:He's immortal.
Speaker B:Oopsies.
Speaker B:So they have to knock him.
Speaker B:They knock him out, which is good.
Speaker B:They're able to do that.
Speaker B:And tie him up.
Speaker B:Up.
Speaker B:And Dean's like, you just need to tell us how to get to the safe, and then we'll let you go.
Speaker B:And Shrike's like, no, you can never crack that riddle.
Speaker B:And there's a thousand tiny darts with silver and arsenic and holy water and holy oil in There.
Speaker A:So just think ton of tons of darts just to kill.
Speaker A:Like, whatever, Right?
Speaker A:So Dean duct tapes his mouth up.
Speaker A:And outside, though, Smash has met Bart at the gate.
Speaker A:And she's super upset over everything that's happened.
Speaker A:And we find out her name is Alice now, because that's what Bart calls her.
Speaker A:And then he tells her just because he likes her doesn't mean he's willing to renegotiate their deal.
Speaker A:And she says that she'll make it up to him.
Speaker A:Just tell her what he wants to do.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so back in this vault, Sam and Dean are discussing the tiles in the riddle.
Speaker B:And basically they.
Speaker B:He's like the.
Speaker B:Sam's like, there's infinite combinations.
Speaker B:We have to get help.
Speaker B:And there's a.
Speaker A:Hoodoo disc floor.
Speaker A:I did like the hudo disco floor.
Speaker A:That was.
Speaker A:That was a good word.
Speaker A:Good one.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then the entrapment thing is funny too.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then finally they're like, wait, I have an idea.
Speaker B:And so they have Shrike on a wheeled platform and they just roll him ahead of them and let him take all the darts.
Speaker A:And because he can't die, then it just doesn't hurt him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So he is pissed.
Speaker B:They just stroll up to the safe and he is full of darts.
Speaker B:And Dean calls it awesome.
Speaker B:And then Smash shows back up.
Speaker B:And they have figured out that she has made a deal with Bart and sold her soul.
Speaker B:But she keeps working to prevent Bart from collecting her soul.
Speaker B:And Sam, dinner.
Speaker B:Like, we can help.
Speaker B:And she's like, pass.
Speaker B:I'm gonna open this safe.
Speaker B:Leave me.
Speaker B:I'm gonna.
Speaker B:Look out for me.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And she pulls out a stethoscope and she starts cracking.
Speaker A:And she opens up the safe and the boys take out a large chest.
Speaker A:But, oh, Luther is gone.
Speaker B:Ruh.
Speaker B:Row.
Speaker B:So somehow he has untied himself and escaped.
Speaker B:Full of darts while they were doing all this.
Speaker B:And outside, it is now daylight.
Speaker B:So this did take all night.
Speaker B:So they probably did need that caffeine, quite frankly.
Speaker B:But that's the only way I would have made it through the night.
Speaker B:But either way, they get the trunk loaded into baby.
Speaker B:They're driving away.
Speaker B:And as they're driving off premises, which on this lovely road, quite frankly, there's Shrike is waiting in a red pickup truck.
Speaker A:Truck.
Speaker B:And Dean decides to do some stunt driving.
Speaker B:It is very impressive in reverse.
Speaker B:And he drives really fast in reverse until finally Sam's got a gun ready.
Speaker B:And he swings around sideways so they can shoot out the tires.
Speaker B:And then they pull him out of the truck and he's like, you are.
Speaker B:Shrike accuses Sam and Dean of whoring themselves out to pure evil.
Speaker B:And explains that his son was dying and he made a deal with Bart.
Speaker B:Trading.
Speaker B:Trading his life.
Speaker B:But then, just a few years later, the son died anyways.
Speaker B:He drowned.
Speaker B:And Bart.
Speaker B:All Bart would say was that accidents happen.
Speaker B:And so he.
Speaker B:The hounds dragged him to hell.
Speaker B:And while he was in hell, he negotiated a new deal because he had leverage inside the trunk.
Speaker B:And he has the key to the trunk around his neck, which probably would have been useful to get also.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But he has this key, and they open the trunk, and inside the trunk is Bart's bones.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:And he's like, y' all are on the wrong side.
Speaker B:And then Bart cuts his head off.
Speaker A:Oops.
Speaker A:So now Luther has left his house so he can die.
Speaker A:Now he is dead, kid.
Speaker A:And so Bart gives Alice a wad of cash.
Speaker A:And I really like his boss tone suit.
Speaker A:And he pulls out the Nephilim spell.
Speaker A:And Sam's just like, nope, can't do it.
Speaker A:And Dean's just like, we just don't like you.
Speaker A:And then Bart grabs Alice and threatens to kill her for the bones.
Speaker A:Bart tells Alice to get the bones, right.
Speaker A:Alice says she is sorry.
Speaker A:Dean's is like, man, you know, it's okay.
Speaker A:You just gotta take care of you.
Speaker A:You just gotta take care of you.
Speaker A:And the camera pans to the top of the bones where we can see there is a lighter waiting.
Speaker A:And Alice grabs the Zippo and lights the bones on fire and then catches fire.
Speaker A:And Bart catches on fire.
Speaker A:And so does the spell because Sam was too stupid to pull this.
Speaker A:But get the spell.
Speaker A:What is wrong with you morons?
Speaker B:I was literally watching it.
Speaker B:I'm like, why don't they pull the spell out of his hand?
Speaker A:You're right there.
Speaker A:And he's like, you're 17.
Speaker A:Oh, my God, I'm on fire.
Speaker A:You could be over there in, like, a half a second.
Speaker A:Just go one side.
Speaker A:Giant Sam step 2.
Speaker A:Giant Sam step might have a spell.
Speaker B:And, like, Bart's standing there for a while, like, oh, my Lord, I'm on fire.
Speaker B:Well, my Lord, obviously, because he's a human.
Speaker B:But standing there like, oh, I'm on fire.
Speaker B:This is crazy.
Speaker B:Like, watching himself burn, holding the spell up in the air.
Speaker B:And they're like, oh, yeah, by the way, we should get that.
Speaker B:It's too late.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker B:It burns up.
Speaker B:Crazy.
Speaker B:Crazy.
Speaker A:So poor bar is now in the empty.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And Luther's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:But so, yay.
Speaker A:I guess we kind of Won.
Speaker A:And so we go to the bus.
Speaker A:A bus station where they're gonna take.
Speaker A:Give Alice.
Speaker A:Her.
Speaker B:Her.
Speaker A:She's taking a bus to somewhere.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Dean, she apologizes and thanks them.
Speaker A:And what's apologizing for really?
Speaker A:I mean, she across them, but not really.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:I mean, she just.
Speaker A:She came back across them.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But anyway, she apologizes.
Speaker A:I don't think she has to.
Speaker A:And, you know, just basically says that she didn't have to do that for her and says she'll see them around.
Speaker A:Dean tells her to stay weird.
Speaker A:And she flashes a peace sign and sticks out her tongue.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And the bus drives away and we never see her again.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we go back to the bunker where Sam and Dean are having bunker beers.
Speaker B:And now Sam is bummed.
Speaker B:So Sam's the sad one because it's not the.
Speaker B:It's not the best day, but it's not the worst.
Speaker B:But basically, like, they're back at square one.
Speaker B:And now Dean's like, well, we saved somebody, so that's good.
Speaker B:And you know what?
Speaker B:We're just going to keep working.
Speaker B:It's what we do.
Speaker B:And now.
Speaker B:So Sam's happy to hear that tone from Dean, who now they're kind of switched where Dean was sad sack and Sam was trying to keep him motivated.
Speaker B:And now Sam sad Zach and Dean's back motivated.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And then they cheers and that is how they end this episode.
Speaker A:So we have some heist people to talk about.
Speaker C:Casting couch is the casting couch.
Speaker C:Were they on that show that time with that guy?
Speaker B:La la la la la la la.
Speaker A:La la la la la.
Speaker B:So we'll.
Speaker B:I'll start with Bart.
Speaker B:Barthamus.
Speaker B:He's played by David Cubitt.
Speaker B:He's been in episodes of 21 Jump Street, X Files, Arrow, Bates Motel, Once Upon a Time Travelers, altered carbon, good Dr. Nancy Drew.
Speaker B:He was Feto in the movie Alive, which totally messed me up as a kid.
Speaker B:He was detectively Scanlon in Medium.
Speaker B:As a regular character.
Speaker B:The TV show Medium.
Speaker B:John and Van Helsing as a regular character.
Speaker B:Ted in Siren, Calvin and Virgin river, and Eli in Allegiance.
Speaker B:So he's in a lot of regular roles on television.
Speaker B:Smash, AKA Alice was played by Christy Burke.
Speaker B:She's been in episodes of Tower Prep, Almost Human Falling Skies, Van Helsing and Maid.
Speaker B:She is also the young or the teenage slash young woman version of Renesmee in Twilight Breaking Dawn.
Speaker A:That is hilarious.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Grab is played by Matthew Kevin Anderson.
Speaker B:He's actually been mostly an acting coach and cast Reader in a lot of.
Speaker B:Of stuff, but he.
Speaker B:You may have seen him in a Hallmark movie.
Speaker B:He's done a lot of those.
Speaker B:He's a clerk in the horror film Trick or Treat.
Speaker B: He's also an episode to the: Speaker B:Good old Luther Shrike was played by Richard Breek.
Speaker B:He's been in a lot of things.
Speaker B:Also episodes of Mob City, Grim, Game of Thrones.
Speaker B:So funny reference.
Speaker A:That was joke.
Speaker A:Was funny.
Speaker B:Peaky Blinders, Brave New World, the miniseries came out recently.
Speaker B:Cursed and Mandalorian.
Speaker B: , that's the: Speaker B: 's Mr. Wolfgang Orlick in the: Speaker B:And Kessler in the film Altered with Tom Felton.
Speaker B:Asmodeus's demon that we saw briefly talking to Luther Shrike was played by Pasha Ibrahimi.
Speaker B:He's been in episodes of Trailer Park Boys, Supergirl, the Good Doctor, Shadow Hunters, iZombie, Nancy Drew and Big Sky.
Speaker B:Our museum guard that turned into a demon was played by Charles Jarman.
Speaker B: Wonka, Kung fu, Wonder Woman,: Speaker B:He did stunts for all of those.
Speaker B:It's pretty crazy.
Speaker B:He's been.
Speaker B:You would have seen him in episodes of Tracker Flash, Charmed Arrow and Fringe.
Speaker B:He was the priest in the newer horror movie Long Legs that people really like.
Speaker B:But I don't watch scary movies and was a radar tech in the film White House Down.
Speaker A:Very cool.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Interesting cast.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was a good cast.
Speaker B:Yeah, I enjoyed it.
Speaker B:But yeah, so interesting episode.
Speaker B:It was very satisfying and unsatisfying at the same time.
Speaker A:Why was it unsatisfying?
Speaker B:Well, because they were back at around, like, square.
Speaker B:Square one, like I said.
Speaker A:You mean with Jack.
Speaker A:You know, with Jack thing at the end.
Speaker B:Yeah, they don't have.
Speaker B:They didn't get the spell.
Speaker B:They didn't.
Speaker B:Didn't really, like the main storyline.
Speaker B:Didn't get, like, driven forward, like, they didn't really make any.
Speaker B:Any progress on anything, I guess.
Speaker B:Yeah, other than keeping the spell getting to Asmodeus.
Speaker B:That's the only.
Speaker B:I guess the only good news out of it.
Speaker B:But, yeah, that was the bummer about it.
Speaker B:I mean, it wasn't like.
Speaker B:You don't really think about that.
Speaker B:I didn't think about that until the.
Speaker B:After the.
Speaker B:After I watched it, I was like, well, just didn't really move forward at all except that their person.
Speaker B:I mean, I guess their attitude about it changed, which is good.
Speaker B:Dean's less of.
Speaker B:Dean's a little more optimistic now, I guess, and a little more focused on just getting things done.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, so, I mean, that was still.
Speaker A:I mean, that.
Speaker A:And it's still resolved.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And we got a whole thing where we got a whole new demon that we met and we met and then we lost, you know, and.
Speaker A:Which is pretty sad, you know, like how.
Speaker A:How many hundreds of years was Bar Barthemas probably alive?
Speaker A:And then he meets the Winchesters and poof, there he goes.
Speaker A:No more Boston seats for him.
Speaker B:Boss Tones Bart.
Speaker B:Is that what you're gonna call him now?
Speaker A:Boston's Bart?
Speaker A:Dicky Bart, Bartnant.
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker B:But, yeah, but I did enjoy Smash and Grab.
Speaker B:I enjoyed Smash and Grab.
Speaker A:Alice is a really.
Speaker A:Yeah, Alice is a really.
Speaker A:The bon.
Speaker A:Of.
Speaker A:Of Alice.
Speaker A:And I think, you know, when her reading Renesmee is hysterical, that that was her as a younger person and that she grew into Alice.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I mean, how old was.
Speaker A:She must have been as Rezme.
Speaker B:I don't know, man.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, I'm assuming it's the part where she's like the little girl, right?
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:She's the teenage slash young woman version of her.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:But not the child.
Speaker A:Not the child one.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:But I knew she wasn't like the, you know, eating baby, but, you know, but that she.
Speaker A:I thought she was like.
Speaker A:Like the slightly one.
Speaker A:But anyways, it's still.
Speaker A:It's still a funny thing to be, but I think the hairstyle and the just kind of the fate, like her.
Speaker A:Her face and like, just her face looks like Winona.
Speaker A:She just has kind of.
Speaker B:She's very, very.
Speaker A:And I think they just, you know, they.
Speaker A:They obviously over emphasized it with her wardrobe, but I think that it's just.
Speaker A:I think she just probably naturally has that quality.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker A:But I really enjoy her.
Speaker B:Yeah, they do a good job of throwing a good subcultural type of girl in there, which I know is also like a kind of a cliche, but I also enjoy it, so it's fine.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, at least, you know.
Speaker A:Well, and it was like you put a.
Speaker A:You didn't have to put a chick into your.
Speaker A:Into your heist.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, so I'm Glad you.
Speaker A:You brought, you know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:A good.
Speaker A:A good strong female character who, you know, didn't.
Speaker A:Didn't take a lot of.
Speaker A:From the men.
Speaker A:Yeah, but she had a.
Speaker B:And she had a strong skill.
Speaker A:She had a strong skill.
Speaker A:She's a safe cracker and.
Speaker A:But you know, honestly, women are part of the.
Speaker A:Part of the Pink Panthers team, so she brought that.
Speaker A:They're a very feminist organization, you know, women.
Speaker A:No, they're not.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:Anyways.
Speaker A:But yeah, so I, I appreciated the woman being part of a heist and having the safe cracking skills.
Speaker A:And the demon.
Speaker A:I don't grab just reminded me like maybe speaking.
Speaker A:Maybe I'm just in a Boston's thing.
Speaker A:He was just like the sky reject with the hat, you know, like, so he's like.
Speaker A:He's the guy who's trying.
Speaker A:He's watching the Boss Jones.
Speaker B:Is that what it is?
Speaker A:He's the Boston's fan, So he was a fun.
Speaker A:If I think we could have done a little more with his character.
Speaker A:Character.
Speaker A:But he was still fun.
Speaker A:And I appreciated Luther's House.
Speaker A:Although it's you kind of again in the.
Speaker A:What gets left in Supernatural.
Speaker A:Did they just leave everything that was in Luther's house?
Speaker B:Apparently.
Speaker A:Like a cult.
Speaker B:Like shouldn't they confiscate it and bring it to the bunker?
Speaker A:I think they should have.
Speaker A:And that would have taken like more than a night.
Speaker A:Like I'm feeling like you need to do it like a Lutheran estate sale or at least.
Speaker A:At least take everything to the.
Speaker A:To the bunker.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:For real.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I do think, you know, Luther's care and Luther's character is also.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:Maybe this is slightly unsatisfying to me is that they go through this thing to try and make you feel sorry for his character.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:That he was.
Speaker A:He had this little boy that died even though he was supposed to be saved.
Speaker A:And you know, it is kind of a shitty thing to happen to have your little boy.
Speaker A:He was cured from cancer or whatever that just be drowned.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So that is a horrible thing to happen.
Speaker A:But is that why he's like, he.
Speaker A:His personality became so shitty?
Speaker B:Like, I mean, he might have been.
Speaker B:I mean, but they also came in to take advantage of him and he knew that.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:So was he really that bad or did Bart really make up that.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:But he was still collecting all the stuff of the occult.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So he didn't seem like that great of a character.
Speaker A:Of a character.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Maybe I am stereotyping collectors of the occult And I shouldn't, you know, automatically assume people who collect demon knives are bad.
Speaker A:Maybe he wanted to do something good with a demon knife, like kill demons.
Speaker A:So was he a hunter?
Speaker B:No, but I think.
Speaker B:I think that there would have been a potential for a Luther to have a more than one episode though, just because I think it would have been an interesting arc.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:I mean, at least be a little more.
Speaker A:A little more description on whether or not he was bad.
Speaker A:Because if we get kind of left with this in the middle, I'm not really quite sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, did he get.
Speaker B:Did he turn.
Speaker B:Did he turn dark because of what happened to him or was he made out to.
Speaker B:Was he an opportunist and was made out to be darker than.
Speaker B:Than he was?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:It was overdark to begin with.
Speaker A:But then why would he have all that?
Speaker A:I mean, but he was trying to keep the things.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:There's so many different ways it could go.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think we needed.
Speaker A:I think we need more time with Luther.
Speaker B:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker A:Well, at least you're right.
Speaker A:Like, Dean's not being a sad sack.
Speaker A:So at least we have that.
Speaker A:And we have that to look forward to and anything else motivate.
Speaker B:He's motivated.
Speaker B:No, he's motivated.
Speaker A:Alright, so cheers.
Speaker A:Jerk.
Speaker B:Cheers, bitch.
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