3:06 Red Sky at Morning
Its Supernatural Season 3, Episode 6 "Red Sky at Morning" and everyone is getting handsy. So handsy we will teach you how to craft your very own Hand of Glory (but don't).
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Transcript
On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we're going to take you on a party ghost ship.
Speaker A:You can get a ghost handjob.
Speaker A:You can eat all the finger foods that you want.
Speaker B:Let's do this.
Speaker B:Foreign.
Speaker B:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker B:Gonna Talk about Season 3, Episode 6, Red Sky Morning.
Speaker A:That sounds so serious.
Speaker B:I'm Diana.
Speaker A:I'm Liz.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We've been deep in planning our excursion to New Orleans coming up for the Supernatural convention.
Speaker B:By the time you are listening to this episode, we will be getting ready to arrive.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was like, well, it depends on when you listen to this, but on that day.
Speaker A:On that day, we will be traveling to the city of New Orleans.
Speaker B:Yes, for sure.
Speaker B:So, yeah, that's pretty exciting.
Speaker B:Just as a reminder, if you see us at the convention, don't be creepy, but please come say hi and get a sticker if you're there.
Speaker A:Don't be creepy.
Speaker A:I like creepy.
Speaker A:That's fine.
Speaker A:Like, I guess it depends on your definition of creepy, right?
Speaker B:Well, I mean, like, don't, like, awkwardly follow us around.
Speaker B:Like, come say hi.
Speaker B:We're not that mean.
Speaker A:Now I want someone to awkwardly follow me around.
Speaker A:That sounds amazing.
Speaker A:What kind of celebrities do you think we are?
Speaker B:Well, no, I mean, people get weird.
Speaker A:Like, ooh, is that so?
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker A:Ooh.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't want to say anything.
Speaker B:Like, people get weird about saying hi.
Speaker B:I don't think we're, like, that special, but, you know.
Speaker A:No, but people are intimidated by both of us.
Speaker A:So we.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, that's just a natural.
Speaker A:It has nothing to do with this podcast.
Speaker A:We're just intimidating.
Speaker B:It has nothing to do with the podcast, which you'll find as intimidating sometimes in the natural world.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You know, we're two hot chicks.
Speaker B:What do you expect?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:What's going on with you?
Speaker A:So I am recovering from my last series class for my aerial hoop, otherwise known as Lyra.
Speaker A:So my arms are really sore.
Speaker A:My legs are covered in bruises because apparently if you're jumping into a steel hoop, it hurts.
Speaker A:But I jumped into steel hoops, and then I. I spun in them, and then I did.
Speaker B:Impressive.
Speaker A:And it was cool.
Speaker A:Other than that, I mean, it was.
Speaker A:It's been a pretty slow week.
Speaker A:Went and saw some shitty comedy on Friday.
Speaker B:Oh, it was.
Speaker A:It was awful.
Speaker A:And I mean, as much as my.
Speaker A:My friend that I went with, the company was great, but God damn, that comedy was terrible.
Speaker A:But it's local comedy.
Speaker A:And some of it was fine, but it's just.
Speaker A:Yeah, there are some subject matters.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, did you think about this?
Speaker A:Did you?
Speaker A:Did you, You, You.
Speaker A:You said this out loud before you.
Speaker A:Okay, you did that.
Speaker A:And then we went out.
Speaker A:We were gonna go to the drag show afterwards and walked down that way to Club Elysium and they weren't open yet, so went to have a beer at Valhalla and I finished like half the beer and I was like, I gotta go home.
Speaker A:It was like 10 o' clock.
Speaker A:And I was like, I am so fucking tired.
Speaker A:I. I just need to.
Speaker A:I did nothing except make a puppet.
Speaker A:So I made a puppet and then I like, laid on the couch.
Speaker A:And then Sunday I went to brunch, which is a surprising drag brunch.
Speaker A:So I got drag queens.
Speaker B:Even though, after all.
Speaker A:After all, I got drag queens at a burger and some beers.
Speaker A:So, yeah, that was me.
Speaker A:What's up with you?
Speaker B:I dyed my hair again.
Speaker B:And then we had a very, very long, eventful Saturday.
Speaker B:But it was super fun.
Speaker B:Well, so both of my.
Speaker B:Both of Dave, AKA Babe's children, my stepmother.
Speaker B:Yes, I am.
Speaker B:They came in town and because they had a little bit of time for over Veterans Day weekend and so they came to visit and we went to a car show all day Saturday.
Speaker A:Well, I'm gonna pause but also thank them for their service and thank you for your service.
Speaker A:Veterans Day flatitudes are done now.
Speaker A:Okay, go on.
Speaker B:Thanks.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:But no, we went to a car show all day up.
Speaker B:And this is not the one we host.
Speaker B:This is just when we attend called Pistons and Paint up in Denton, Texas, hosted by Chupacabra's car club.
Speaker B:And we went up there all thinking day.
Speaker B:Chupacabra.
Speaker A:Chupacabras.
Speaker B:Yeah, I know.
Speaker B:I knew you'd like that.
Speaker B:And then Dave's car got a trophy.
Speaker B:Pretty flipping sweet.
Speaker B:So he was excited.
Speaker B:There was like 600 cars there and they gave out like total.
Speaker B:I think was like right around 10 trophies or maybe 15 at the most.
Speaker B:So it's pretty awesome.
Speaker B:So he got a trophy and he was very excited about that.
Speaker B:And I was very happy for him.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker A:Does that make you a trophy wife maybe?
Speaker B:Or is he a trophy husband?
Speaker A:But that scenes were accurate.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, and then we went to.
Speaker B:We went home and everybody else was bailing because everybody else was tired because we were at the car show from fricking bright ass early in the morning until late afternoon.
Speaker B:But no, Dave and I powered through because punk rock's important.
Speaker B:So we Drank a drink, some cups of coffee and he.
Speaker B:His neck's been bothering him so he iced down his neck.
Speaker B:And then we got changed clothes and we went to a punk rock show like you do and saw two bands we had never seen before but had looked up a little bit and were interested in Tight.
Speaker B:Tightwire was the first band and the second man was the last gang who are.
Speaker B:I'm a big fan personally now after seeing them.
Speaker B:And then Teenage Bottle Rocket who are always fucking awesome.
Speaker B:So it was an awesome, awesome night.
Speaker B:And, and catch this.
Speaker B:And even like listening to Teenage Bottle Rocket was saying, he's like, and I'll have you in bed by midnight by the way.
Speaker B:Show was over.
Speaker B:We got home before midnight after all that.
Speaker B:So I had a fantastic day.
Speaker B:A long past car show and then punk rock show that night.
Speaker B:Everybody else bailed on, including the youngsters bailed for the record.
Speaker B:And our old asses went and rocked out of the punk rock show.
Speaker B:And I even stood at the edge of the pit for a minute instead of standing way in the back.
Speaker A:Aw.
Speaker A:Well.
Speaker A:Like a little YAG punk rocker.
Speaker A:That's so, so cute of you.
Speaker B:Like on the edge where you can just put your arm up and touch the edge of the pit but you're not in it.
Speaker B:You know that like.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:For those of you who don't know also, Teenage Bottle Rocket is a band made of, of.
Speaker A:I'm not saying elderly people, just people our age who also want to be homebo.
Speaker A:Teenage is in their name.
Speaker A:They also want to be home early and go to bed.
Speaker A:Which is like the glory of our middle aged punk rock lives now.
Speaker A:It's like we, we all want to go see bands but we also just want to go to bed.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:We're tired.
Speaker B:We're tired.
Speaker A:We're very tired all the time.
Speaker A:That's all we are.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, so it was rad.
Speaker B:And if you're like, I don't know, I guess the other band that they're associate with a lot is the Lillingtons and they're like do a lot of comic book stuff that people like a lot too.
Speaker B:And super fun show.
Speaker B:And I got a really cute new shirt.
Speaker B:I'm very excited about it.
Speaker B:It has, it has a trash panda.
Speaker A:On it as a trash panda on it.
Speaker A:But it's pink and I'm very impressed you bought a picture.
Speaker A:I am too.
Speaker A:I had some vodka.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, that's how I end up with like all sorts of weird band merch.
Speaker A:Like I came back from LA and I'm like, hey, Kelly, does this shirt fit you?
Speaker A:And he's like, no, no, that does not fit me.
Speaker A:And I'm like, I don't know why I bough.
Speaker A:I just thought you lost weight.
Speaker A:And this is the shirt that you fit in.
Speaker A:So this will go to another friend.
Speaker A:So you get a poster.
Speaker B:Yeah, I. Yeah, I bought two shirts at the show, which I is way out of my norm, but I actually really like them both.
Speaker B:So excited.
Speaker B:So, yeah, that's what I got.
Speaker B:So we should probably talk about this episode.
Speaker A:Wait.
Speaker B:Oh, wait.
Speaker B:What.
Speaker B:What am I drinking?
Speaker B:It's McPherson wine, which I usually really, really like.
Speaker B:But I tried a new blend, and it's called, like, Tre Collier.
Speaker B:And it's fine.
Speaker A:It's like, are there three colors in it?
Speaker B:It's three.
Speaker B:It's a.
Speaker B:It's like a blend.
Speaker B:So it's like three reds.
Speaker B:And I was like, oh, those are ones I like.
Speaker B:And sometimes I like blends.
Speaker B:In this one, Dave's comment was to sound stupid, but it tastes like grape juice.
Speaker A:Well, you know, you can take it to church then.
Speaker B:So I'm like, well, yeah, but, yeah, that's fine.
Speaker B:Like, it's not, like, not drinkable.
Speaker B:I'm just not.
Speaker B:Well, I like this brand still.
Speaker B:I won't buy this specific wine again.
Speaker B:What do you got?
Speaker B:Something good.
Speaker A:I am drinking a Signor, and I'm drinking their wildflower, which is also a red blend.
Speaker A:But I'm finding it's really.
Speaker A:Like, my wine glass is so heavy.
Speaker A:It's so much effort to bring this to my mouth.
Speaker A:Like, can you put a straw into a red?
Speaker A:Like, that would be awful.
Speaker B:But I have an important question about this weekend drinking.
Speaker B:Can we locate some absinthe to drink?
Speaker A:So that was the absinthe place that I really like.
Speaker A:Bella Pig is still not open that we can still locate it.
Speaker A:I drink absinthe only because it's a thing, and it's disgusting.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna go, like, buy some for my house.
Speaker B:I have a glass of, like, when they do it, like, over the sugar cube and you sip it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'll do that.
Speaker B:Actually, like, once place that they does it.
Speaker B:Does it right.
Speaker A:The place that I really liked made amazing cocktails with it.
Speaker A:And so, like, everything was delicious.
Speaker A:But, yeah, we can.
Speaker A:We can find some absence this weekend.
Speaker A:We won't go chasing the green fairy.
Speaker A:But we.
Speaker A:We can certainly.
Speaker B:Or will we?
Speaker B:Or will we?
Speaker A:I mean, I have.
Speaker A:I have been witness to some very stupid things after, like, especially homemade absinthe, where, like, at one point, I'm like, why are you shoving this cop?
Speaker A:Like, I don't know.
Speaker A:And he just like, whoa.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Pretty much the experience of, I know what I'm doing.
Speaker A:I just don't know why.
Speaker A:Why, like, why are we doing this?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Like, it seems like a good idea.
Speaker A:My body is just doing it by itself.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:That's scary.
Speaker B:That's scary.
Speaker B:Okay, awesome.
Speaker A:Absinthe.
Speaker A:Absinthe tastes like licorice, which is why I fucking hate it.
Speaker A:Unless it's mixed with a bunch of things.
Speaker B:Oh, see, I don't hate it.
Speaker A:It's disgusting.
Speaker A:But I'll drink it.
Speaker A:Okay, so let us talk about Red sky at Morning.
Speaker A:So if you don't know, the title of this episode comes from an old rhyme that sailors would use.
Speaker A:So, red sky at night, sailors delight.
Speaker A:Red sky at morning, sailors hate morning.
Speaker A:Which theoretically, and this, according to Supernatural Wiki, is that the red sky at morning is said to signal rain.
Speaker A:But also, I was doing some just reading on general sailor ideas.
Speaker A:So they all have, like, lots of superstitions and like, that.
Speaker A:In Spain, it's like you can't sail on a Tuesday or Thursday, and you're also not supposed to get married on that day or leave your wife or take a cat onto the ship, but the cats catch the rats.
Speaker A:You're also not supposed to take a woman unless she's naked.
Speaker A:But, you know, naked women, apparently on boats on the deck can, like, make a storm go away.
Speaker A:So if you're ever on a boat and it's raining and you're a chicken, get naked and then the rain will stop.
Speaker A:So this was episode six of the season.
Speaker A:And just a reminder, this was a year of the writers strike, so we actually have fewer episodes than normal.
Speaker A:I think there's only 17 episodes this season.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:So we're still kind of running on our timeline here.
Speaker A:And so they were getting ready for Thanksgiving.
Speaker A:We were getting ready for Thanksgiving.
Speaker A:This was directed by Cliff, and I don't know if it's Bolay or Bol B O L E. This was the only episode of Supernatural we ever directed.
Speaker A:And Also according to IMDb, this was the last thing that he ever directed.
Speaker A:So this was his last.
Speaker A:His last show.
Speaker A: He died in: Speaker A:He did a lot of TV directing, including a lot of iterations of Star Trek.
Speaker A:And so they named an alien species in Star Trek, the Next Generation, the Bullians, after him.
Speaker A:So lots of Star Trek stuff.
Speaker A:So you're a Star Trek nerd.
Speaker A:You like him.
Speaker A:This was Written by Lawrence Andries.
Speaker A:And this is also the only episode he ever wrote, although he was a consulting producer in more than a dozen episodes.
Speaker A:Okay, that's our background on this.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker A:We have some stuff.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker B:Well, we kick off with getting a little reminder.
Speaker B:Of course it's the recap.
Speaker B:But it's an important recap reminder that we finished off episode five with Sam shooting the Crossroads Demon.
Speaker B:I think that that's just a good reminder.
Speaker B:Jump back in.
Speaker B:So this.
Speaker B:But other than that, the episode starts with.
Speaker B:It's like this marina and there's this chick running at night, which, anyways.
Speaker B:And she stops at a water fountain and sees like these storm clouds in this pirate ghost ship, like flickering in and out of sight.
Speaker B:And she turns around, she looks at it for a minute and she's like, you can tell.
Speaker B:She's like, the fuck?
Speaker B:And she turns around and runs away with her tramp stamp.
Speaker B:Runs away.
Speaker A:I miss her tramp stamp.
Speaker A:But I did not.
Speaker A:Yes, as she runs away.
Speaker A:I did not miss her getting into the shower though, because clearly this was shot by a man.
Speaker A:So she goes into the shower and.
Speaker A:Yeah, what woman takes a shower like this?
Speaker A:Okay, one.
Speaker A:She's like flipping her hair back and with me, with my hair like that would just make red dye like go everywhere.
Speaker A:And she's also holding her mouth open like under the faucet like she's a turkey drowning in the rain.
Speaker A:She's just like holding her mouth like.
Speaker A:And how.
Speaker B:And how much does she need to rinse her hair?
Speaker A:Well, she's not putting anything in it.
Speaker A:She's not shampooing it.
Speaker A:She's not.
Speaker B:But she's acting like she's rinsing it, like running her hands through it, like she's rinsing it over and over again.
Speaker B:It is absurd.
Speaker A:Yep, yep.
Speaker B:However, I would like to go ahead and preface before we get to what's about to happen in the shower, that this is an incredibly well built and sturdy shower.
Speaker B:And I would like to have her contractor's name so they to get a shower built.
Speaker B:I would never break.
Speaker B:It will never break.
Speaker A:We have some good bathrooms in this episode.
Speaker A:I will say the supernatural HGTV was strong on this.
Speaker B:Like this.
Speaker B:So she starts seeing kind of like a shadow and you hear kind of like this weird like water squeaky noise.
Speaker B:Now I don't know why it's funny, but it was to me.
Speaker B:So she.
Speaker B:But then you see a hand, like touched to tempered glass.
Speaker B:Finally she turns, there's nothing there.
Speaker B:She opens the shower door.
Speaker B:Nothing's in the room, she closes it and then all of a sudden inside the shower there's somebody with her, which is scary, but yeah.
Speaker A:And he throws her up against the wall and her mouth is still open.
Speaker A:It's still open.
Speaker A:And I just want to reiterate, I.
Speaker B:Just want to reiterate how incredibly large this shower is for a stand up frosted glass shower.
Speaker B:And also how incredibly sturdy it is once again for her face to be pressed with her open mouth pressed against the side of it that strongly.
Speaker A:Well, I feel like maybe they, I think in the series they've done what people get thrown into the shower before the glass and it breaks.
Speaker A:And Yeah, I mean for the most part that those shower glass actually probably is pretty hard to break, I would hope.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, I don't know.
Speaker A:I also, all I think about when I see like glass showers is, oh, God, you've got a squeegee.
Speaker A:That shit.
Speaker A:And like my parents have that glass and they have the squeegee in there.
Speaker A:So like when you get out of the shower, you're supposed to like squeegee the whole thing?
Speaker A:No, like I just, I went into a shower to rinse off whatever work I did.
Speaker A:Like, I don't want to do more work.
Speaker A:Why am I cleaning something else?
Speaker A:I just clean myself.
Speaker A:And that's my theory in shower squeegees don't ever get a glass door.
Speaker B:So she.
Speaker B:So basically she did.
Speaker B:Somebody choked her out of the shower.
Speaker B:She did.
Speaker B:So we cut to our brothers in the Impala.
Speaker B:They're driving and Dean is pushing to find out what Sam did.
Speaker B:He knows that, that there's a missing bullet from the cult.
Speaker B:And he really knows obviously what Sam did.
Speaker B:He's just trying to get Sam to admit it.
Speaker B:So Sam basically says that the Crossroads demon was a smart ass.
Speaker B:And yeah, but that, yeah, I think.
Speaker A:That, I think is also a sign of how this episode is going to go because we already get our first zinger of just like, okay, that was fucking funny, Sam.
Speaker A:Like, I shot her because she was a smart ass.
Speaker A:And again, we've got an episode that just is.
Speaker A:I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker B:So yeah, so it was pretty funny.
Speaker B:And then, but they, but they also acknowledge that Dean's not out of his deal still.
Speaker B:And then Dean's kind of pissed, like, wait, this is also our only lead to get me out of the deal because now we don't know who her boss was who now owns my fucking life slash soul in a year.
Speaker A:Yeah, which is a valid point.
Speaker B:Valid, valid.
Speaker B:But he also, but also Dean was like, did he really care who the lead on that is?
Speaker B:Because he says he didn't want to try to break it.
Speaker B:But I guess, anyways, whatever.
Speaker B:I guess he didn't like not having the option there.
Speaker B:So there we go.
Speaker B:So we cut to their.
Speaker B:They're going to obviously research this case.
Speaker B:And the brothers are talking to an older woman.
Speaker B:Her name is Gert.
Speaker A:It's Gertie or Gertie, but I call her Gertie or Mrs. Case, or as she wants Sam to call her, Ms. Case.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:Because Ms. Case is horny.
Speaker A:This woman is so horny.
Speaker A:And I love woman.
Speaker A:She is my goal to be.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:At the end, we'll talk when her hair is down and it's fucking glorious and silver.
Speaker A:God damn, I love Gertie so fudgeing much.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So she's there talking to her and trying to get some answers.
Speaker B:She.
Speaker B:They kind of assume.
Speaker B:She kind of assumes they're part of the sheriff's department, but trying to get answers about if this young lady who is now dead had seen anything or whatever.
Speaker B:Things were weird before she died.
Speaker B:And she assumes that they were working.
Speaker B:That they're working with someone named Alex.
Speaker B:And so they play along.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And also before that, though, she asked, you know, how can someone drown in their own shower?
Speaker A:I'm like, hello.
Speaker A:Her mouth was open all the time.
Speaker A:That is how she drowned in the shower.
Speaker A:She was just like a turkey with her mouth open.
Speaker A:Was like.
Speaker A:And that's how.
Speaker A:That's how you drown the shower, Gertie.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So they work with Alex.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:Then she tells them, though, that Sheila, the girl who.
Speaker B:The name of the girl who died, had seen a boat before her death and that Alex knew about it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And then she's very creepily caressing Sam's hands, like her flirt in this is for real.
Speaker A:She's great.
Speaker A:So good.
Speaker A:So she's.
Speaker A:She's being horny for Sam.
Speaker A:And so now we also find about.
Speaker A:Alex thinks it's a ghost ship.
Speaker B:Ghost ship.
Speaker A:And that's our first mention of ghost ship at this time.
Speaker A:So we're gonna go to the marina.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so this is where Sam's done his research already.
Speaker B:He says that every 37 years, there's these sightings of this clipper ship.
Speaker B:And then there's also a rash of, quote, weirdo dry land drownings.
Speaker A:And he goes into the lore that ghost ships are all around the world, and they're almost always death omens.
Speaker A:And this is not where we're Going to do lore.
Speaker A:But I do want to mention my favorite ghost ship ever.
Speaker A:And that is a Chilean ghost ship known as the Kaluiche.
Speaker A:Sorry for that Spanish pronunciation.
Speaker A:I think it's kind of.
Speaker A:So that is a large ghost ship that sails around an island off the coast of Chile, and it goes at night and is said to be a being that is conscious and it's sentiment.
Speaker A:And it appears as a beautiful and bright white sailing ship with three masts of five sails each.
Speaker A:It's always full of lights, and also it always sounds like a party.
Speaker A:So it is a party ghost ship.
Speaker A:And so you can also apparently can go underwater.
Speaker A:And everyone on board is fucking happy as shit.
Speaker A:And the reason is that the crew on board are undiscovered lost souls of the sea who've been brought back to life by mermaids who tend to the missing and bring them to the ship.
Speaker A:So if you get lost in the sea off the coast of Chile, which is like, maybe you're going to Easter island, which is off the coast.
Speaker A:And when I was in Santiago, I really wanted to do it.
Speaker A:Didn't have time.
Speaker A:But, yeah, you can go find a party ship.
Speaker A:So it sounds way better than, I never want to go on a cruise.
Speaker A:But that one, I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker A:Like, you're full of ghosts.
Speaker A:And other theories also say that it's full of witches and warlocks.
Speaker A:So it is my favorite ghost ship.
Speaker A:All right, so now we know we're looking for a ghost ship.
Speaker A:And then we see tragedy strikes.
Speaker B:Tragedy.
Speaker B:Tragedy.
Speaker A:Fucking tragedy.
Speaker A:Baby's gone Panic.
Speaker A:Panic.
Speaker B:Where's Baby?
Speaker B:It looks like Dean's gonna hyperino it, which is actually kind of funny.
Speaker B:But actually, I don't blame them either.
Speaker B:So here we go.
Speaker A:But who's there?
Speaker A:Who showed up?
Speaker B:Fucking Bella.
Speaker A:Yay, Bella.
Speaker B:And she's back.
Speaker B:And she's the quote, unquote, Alex, hired by the older lady.
Speaker B:And she basically goes and, like, gets hired to do, like, seances charms and provide comfort to people.
Speaker A:No, she does seances so the old ladies can communicate with their dead cats.
Speaker A:And I think that is a very useful service to the community.
Speaker A:I would like to talk to my dead cats.
Speaker A:I've got my cat, too.
Speaker A:Like, if she can do a seance and, like, let me talk to my cat, that would be great.
Speaker A:Although the cat would just be like you, because that's what a cat would say.
Speaker A:But anyway, so they get back and forth.
Speaker B:There's a good line here, though.
Speaker B:One of my favorite lines, Sam asks how you sleep at night.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:On Silk Sheets rolling in money.
Speaker A:Yes, I have that.
Speaker A:Followed by in very capital letters, yes, girl, very few times.
Speaker A:And I will say things like that, but.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:Yeah, get it, girl, get it.
Speaker A:I'm just going to say those obnoxious things that I hate when other people say them, but I can say it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So she's obviously aware of the ghost ship.
Speaker B:And now she's mad, though, because Gertie has stopped paying her because now she realizes the case isn't closed because the brothers showed up.
Speaker B:So Bella's pissed and wants them to stay out of her way.
Speaker B:So that's why she took their car.
Speaker B:And so as she's leaving, Sam asks if he can shoot her.
Speaker B:And Dean says, not in public, which made me laugh.
Speaker A:There are great one liners in this.
Speaker A:There are.
Speaker A:There are.
Speaker A:All right, so we're going to another fabulous bathroom.
Speaker A:So in Supernatural HGTV land, we get another bathroom with the bathtub.
Speaker A:That bathtub.
Speaker A:I want it.
Speaker A:I don't want it so bad.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's.
Speaker A:But it's.
Speaker B:But I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't want.
Speaker B:It's plumbing.
Speaker A:Well, no, I mean, that also looks like my bathtub that's having problems straining right now.
Speaker A:All right, so we're going to start with.
Speaker A:There's a man, and he's in Jamie pants and he's putting his face under the faucet.
Speaker A:What is wrong with you people?
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:What the fuck, man?
Speaker A:Is this how you brush your teeth?
Speaker A:When you brush your teeth, you shove your face under the faucet.
Speaker A:Like, this seems terrible.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't have like a fancy that I use in the bathroom, but I'm also not shoving my face under the faucet.
Speaker A:This seems like a stupid idea.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:But then a ghost man just starts running by, just running through the bathroom.
Speaker B:That's a sound effect for him.
Speaker B:And then all of a sudden, the tub is full and the water's on.
Speaker B:Now, it would have taken a while to fill up is one of my concerns.
Speaker B:And I don't know if this guy was intentionally filling the tub and we just didn't really hear it before or if it just filled up really fucking fast.
Speaker B:But the water is.
Speaker B:The tub is full of very blue, greeny water.
Speaker B:It is not good.
Speaker A:Maybe he was doing.
Speaker A:He could have been doing a bath bomb.
Speaker A:I mean, I have lots of bath.
Speaker A:I have lots of funky colored ones.
Speaker B:Yeah, you get some.
Speaker B:There's some funky colored ones out there.
Speaker B:I do.
Speaker A:I did a pink one last night and I Had a little bear that.
Speaker A:I'll send you the video of the bear getting, like, put into the bathtub and dying.
Speaker A:Because that is what I do when I go in the bath.
Speaker A:I will say I was watching Elvira's Haunted Hills.
Speaker A:Haunted.
Speaker A:Is that what it's called?
Speaker A:Have you seen that movie of hers?
Speaker A:It was, like, done.
Speaker A:It's one of her lesser known ones, but she wrote and directed it and lost a lot of money and was filmed in Romania.
Speaker A:But there's a.
Speaker A:There's a scene in there where she's in the bathtub and she's playing with, like, pirate ships.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:Yeah, so I had a lot of flashbacks to Elvira's bathtub scene in this, but.
Speaker A:So the bathtub is now filled up all the way and it doesn't drain.
Speaker A:Also, the drain on the side of the tub is fucking awesome.
Speaker A:That is so rad.
Speaker A:Getting, like, contractor stuff.
Speaker A:They're like, okay, you don't have to put your hand in there to drain the tub.
Speaker A:This is like the.
Speaker A:Why don't all tubs have this?
Speaker A:Like, why is it in the bottom?
Speaker A:Why can't I do this?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:No, it's impressive.
Speaker B:Very fancy.
Speaker B:Very fancy bathroom.
Speaker B:So he's looking into a water and leaning over, looking.
Speaker B:Trying to look down into the murky ass water because it won't drain.
Speaker B:And a hand pops out, grabs his throat.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's not good.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:So he got.
Speaker B:I will not lie, I jumped so hard.
Speaker A:He got a ghost hand job.
Speaker A:He got a ghost hand job in his job and he died.
Speaker B:It was very.
Speaker B:I was very distraught when I got startled then.
Speaker B:Anyways, so we cut to the.
Speaker B:Like, more like daytime.
Speaker B:And this guy outside, and he's like.
Speaker B:The police say he drowned, but he's talking to a woman with a recorder.
Speaker B:And it's fucking Bella, who magically doesn't have an accent right now because she's pretending to be a reporter interviewing this guy about his brother dying.
Speaker A:Now, I want to know.
Speaker A:She's really British.
Speaker B:She is.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I was she fake.
Speaker A:I was like, is she faking the American accent or is she making the British accent?
Speaker B:No, she is.
Speaker B:I remember because when I saw her on Walking Dead originally, I looked it up.
Speaker B:So, yeah, she's actually a Brit, which is funny because Walking Dead has a lot of Brits who play Southern Americans.
Speaker B:Very odd.
Speaker A:Anyways, I think for, like, doing accents, that's the one that English people can do easier is to do a Southern as opposed to doing a straight up American acc.
Speaker A:Because that's how you end up with, like, James.
Speaker A:No, not James Masters.
Speaker A:Anyways, I know there's lots of things.
Speaker B:Where it's like, in the dialect, it's a little easier than trying to not have one.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:But she's asking about the ship that he saw.
Speaker B:And as.
Speaker B:And as that's happening, our Winchester brothers walk up and like, he's been.
Speaker B:They flash like, fake badges, like, oh, he's been through enough, and try to scare her off, and they just won't let.
Speaker B:They just won't let her ask any more questions and run her off pretending to be cops.
Speaker B:And so the brothers start asking about the ship, and it finds out that they were night diving.
Speaker B:And both brothers saw it and gave, like, a pretty detailed description of it at this point in time.
Speaker A:So what's the purpose of night diving?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't have an answer for you.
Speaker A:I mean, I went swimming in the Ocean at like 3 o' clock in the morning, but that was because I was in my 20s and I lived in Florida and we would just go skinny dipping because the.
Speaker A:The water was always like 70 degrees.
Speaker A:But I.
Speaker A:And even then I was like, I'm gonna be eaten by a.
Speaker A:By a ghost ship or something, you know, like, it just.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think, like, I think people get excited about, like, the different critters you can see at night versus true.
Speaker B:But, like, no, that falls in the same category as, like, cave diving.
Speaker B:Like, cave scuba to me.
Speaker B:Which, like, that makes.
Speaker B:That gives me.
Speaker B:Just thinking about it gives me anxiety.
Speaker B:And I don't get, like, you know me.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:Like, I'm pretty chill about some stuff like that, like, freaks me the fuck out.
Speaker A:Yeah, fair.
Speaker A:Fair.
Speaker A:I mean, I know I've done like, cave snorkeling, which is a lot of fun.
Speaker B:That's different.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I don't know if I can handle actual diving.
Speaker A:Like, but I think Diana's dying.
Speaker A:Are you okay?
Speaker B:I just burped and I was like, okay.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, my God, diving is drying.
Speaker B:I was like, no, like, like, oh, God.
Speaker B:I think I kept that quiet.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker A:Classy, bitches.
Speaker B:Excuse me.
Speaker A:I really hope that belches on there.
Speaker A:All right, so, yeah, they were night diving.
Speaker A:Yankee Clipper.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Bella goes and titles the cops to the real cops about the fake crop brothers.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So now.
Speaker B:And now we also know this guy has also seen the clipper ship, which we're already piecing together is.
Speaker B:Is not a good sign for him.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:So Bella walks up while the brothers are loading up all their guns and she's like, why that.
Speaker B:Why are you still around?
Speaker B:You can ID this ship.
Speaker B:Let's just go fucking figure this.
Speaker B:Solve it.
Speaker A:Also, Baby's back, by the way.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Baby safe.
Speaker A:Baby's safe.
Speaker A:And so was Trunk.
Speaker A:And that's how they got the guns gone.
Speaker A:So Trunk is there.
Speaker A:All her stuff is intact.
Speaker A:Her guns are in there.
Speaker A:Yeah, Team trunk.
Speaker A:Team trunk.
Speaker B:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And she's like, why are you still here?
Speaker B:You can ID the ship.
Speaker B:You can be done.
Speaker B:And they're like, we have to protect this guy.
Speaker B:And she's, like, amused.
Speaker B:She's like, oh, well, he can't be saved, so why bother?
Speaker B:Haha.
Speaker B:You just need to go solve the ship issue and that's it.
Speaker B:And they're like, no, we have to try to save him.
Speaker B:That's just what we do.
Speaker B:And so she's gonna just like, I'm just gonna handle the ship.
Speaker B:Fuck y'.
Speaker A:All.
Speaker B:And he asks, like.
Speaker B:And it's kind of like this really weird exchange, but.
Speaker B:But accurate too, between Dean and Bella.
Speaker B:And he's like, why are you like that?
Speaker B:And daddy didn't give you enough hugs?
Speaker B:And she clips back kind of at him, like.
Speaker B:And says, like, hey, don't look down your nose at me.
Speaker B:You're no better than me.
Speaker B:And says that.
Speaker B:He says, about helping people.
Speaker B:And she's like, that's about vengeance.
Speaker B:And you're just a stone's throw from a serial killer.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is harsh, but not wrong.
Speaker A:And also, like, Dean gets really judgy of people sometimes.
Speaker A:And I'm like, he.
Speaker B:Yeah, he gets.
Speaker B:He's very judgy, which is very odd.
Speaker A:And I'm like, you don't really have a lot of room to do this.
Speaker A:Like, you basically, you live off of identity theft.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And you don't have an actual job.
Speaker A:You don't have a home.
Speaker A:And you're kind of.
Speaker B:You're kind of.
Speaker B:You're kind of slutty, but not that there's nothing to judge you for, but you're slutty in a way where you're kind of gross.
Speaker A:It's not healthy.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And you're kind of gross about it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So where's your other.
Speaker B:Like, where.
Speaker B:Where are you getting this judginess from?
Speaker B:Yeah, it's very odd.
Speaker A:And yeah, your supernatural shit don't stink.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't know.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And she's like, her.
Speaker B:But in Bella's attitude here, she's like, I just get paid to do a job.
Speaker B:You're just, you know, Anyways, and so which one is healthier?
Speaker B:And so Sam asks her to leave,.
Speaker A:Then she goes away.
Speaker A:And now we're going to a.
Speaker A:Once again, a very subtle stakeout.
Speaker B:Oh my God.
Speaker B:Like, come on.
Speaker B:Like this big ass house that this guy lives in.
Speaker B:And they're just like sitting outside.
Speaker B:This is the kind of time where they seem to like tell someone like, hey, we're private security or we're undercover or something and we've been asked to watch your house.
Speaker B:We think you'll be okay, but just we're here if you need anything because quite frankly, they're really obvious and fucking creepy otherwise.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Clearly, as we find out, they are not free.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:And it's like, okay.
Speaker B:So Sam's like doing research while they're there and trying to figure out what connects all these different victims together because there has to be something.
Speaker B:But they're, you know, and that like.
Speaker B:Anyways, the brother who they think is going to die comes outside and calls like a.
Speaker B:He calls baby Crappy, which is not nice.
Speaker B:I was not happy about that.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:And was just freaking out, like, why the fuck are you sitting outside of my house?
Speaker B:And they say, well, we're here to protect you.
Speaker B:And he's like, from who?
Speaker B:And then he's like, get away from me.
Speaker B:And tries to drive off, unsuccessfully.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:His Mercedes not run.
Speaker A:And whose car is crappy now?
Speaker A:It's your car.
Speaker B:And so all of a sudden now this is the first time we really kind of see how this death occurs, I guess where we see this really greasy looking guy who's really just bedraggled.
Speaker B:I think that's the other word I wrote, bedraggled.
Speaker B:Long haired dude, that's my note, is in the back seat.
Speaker B:And then all of a sudden he's in the front seat.
Speaker B:And then he grabs this guy's throat and water just starts pouring out of his mouth, which is very upsetting.
Speaker A:It is very upsetting.
Speaker A:And also happened that way because of budgetary reasons.
Speaker A:So they had all sorts of different ways they were trying to think about how they were going to do this.
Speaker A:This was the most cost efficient way.
Speaker A:And I guess what it is is they say like kind of like there's a water thing that goes into your tooth.
Speaker A:Like a denture appliance, not your teeth itself, but it goes into your mouth.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:So if you watch it, you can see like the water is coming out of the side of their mouth instead of actually coming from the front.
Speaker A:But you would have to like really be looking forward to see that effect.
Speaker A:It's so well done.
Speaker A:It's very well done.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, Dean runs up with his.
Speaker B:As Sam runs up the car.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:As Dean runs up the car and the brothers collapses into the space into the steering wheel.
Speaker B:And right when Dean shooting the ghost dude.
Speaker B:The bedraggled long haired dude with his shotgun with salt.
Speaker B:And the guy disappears and it's too late because the brother's dead.
Speaker B:Water's still dribbling out of his mouth.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You did a shitty job of protecting him by the way.
Speaker A:Guys like you're right there.
Speaker A:Why didn't you just shoot the ghost from like where you were?
Speaker A:Like, why did you have to like stand?
Speaker B:It was a very weird.
Speaker B:This was a weird little scene.
Speaker B:It seemed like.
Speaker A:Yeah, because it's like are you waiting.
Speaker A:Like, were you trying not to shoot the guy?
Speaker A:But like if he gets shot with rock salt, he'll be fine.
Speaker B:But her like a.
Speaker B:We ain't gonna die.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Maybe if they're just.
Speaker B:Confidence was shaken.
Speaker B:Shake it.
Speaker B:Shaken.
Speaker A:Shook.
Speaker A:They were shook.
Speaker B:Shaken.
Speaker B:They were shook.
Speaker B:They were shook.
Speaker A:And they were shooketh.
Speaker A:They were shooketh all over the place.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And so what it was after like the stuff with Bella or what?
Speaker B:But it was just not.
Speaker B:It was not their best.
Speaker B:The rest play.
Speaker B:So they were upset driving.
Speaker B:And Dean tries to remind Sam that you can't save everyone.
Speaker A:You can't save everyone.
Speaker A:Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker A:Sam is sad because he's rejecting.
Speaker A:So we're doing this again.
Speaker A:But also on the radio with Dean turned off.
Speaker A:They're talking about a really powerful storm coming in.
Speaker A:Which I was like, oh, this must be foreshadowing something because they're talking there's a storm thing on the radio.
Speaker A:And so.
Speaker A:But yeah, we get the same old blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B:So sad.
Speaker B:Anyway, so they.
Speaker B:They put this like this fancy old house and Bella shows up.
Speaker B:Basically.
Speaker B:They're squatting in this house.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So they're squatting in this house that has no power.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because there's candles everywhere.
Speaker A:But at the same time there's like ethernet cables hooked up to their computers.
Speaker B:Priorities.
Speaker A:So there's no Internet.
Speaker A:Like there's no power, but there's Internet.
Speaker A:Like I don't know.
Speaker A:They're like.
Speaker A:It's just a very weird connections of things.
Speaker A:So any but Sam is reading a book on ships.
Speaker A:Of course he is.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And she wants.
Speaker B:She's saying that she wants them all to work together.
Speaker B:She apologizes, she says she's ID the ship.
Speaker B:This guy was Tried for treason and hanged at age 37.
Speaker B:And Dean recognizes the guy as the ghost that he saw, but now he's missing a hand, and apparently it's because he was.
Speaker B:They cut off their right hand for a Hand of Glory.
Speaker B:It was like a mystical thing.
Speaker A:Hand of Glory.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it's a mystical thing that we're going to talk about?
Speaker A:Of course.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Are you going to share Dean's joke before we do get do that, or.
Speaker A:I think we go back to this joke.
Speaker A:Is there a hand job joke or something?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:So we're going to say Dean makes a gross hand job joke.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:What time is it?
Speaker B:It's time for lore.
Speaker A:All right, so Hand of Glory.
Speaker A:So part of this is, you know, thieves have long been punished by having their hands cut off, but the hands of murderers, particularly those who are hanged, are extra special.
Speaker A:They're extra special hands.
Speaker A:And for a Hand of Glory, the best candidates are the hands that were cut off while they were still in the gallows.
Speaker A:So they'd be swinging there, and they cut off their hand, and then you can use that to do stuff.
Speaker A:So if you do miss your opportunity to cut off their hand while they're swinging, you can also harvest it under a lunar eclipse.
Speaker A:But then you got to do some crafting.
Speaker A:All right, so it's time for some supernatural crafting.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So to make a Hand of Glory, you've got to wrap the hand in a shroud and.
Speaker A:Or a cheesecloth, depending on.
Speaker A:If you don't have a shroud, I think you can just use a cheesecloth.
Speaker A:And you squeeze it until all the blood comes out of it.
Speaker A:Then you put it in a jar with salt, long peppers, and saltpeter for two weeks.
Speaker A:So it sits in there and it marinates.
Speaker A:It just does this dead hand thing.
Speaker A:Then you can either dry it in oven with my favorite herb, vervain, which I cannot grow to save my fucking life.
Speaker A:I have tried many times, all the vampire Diaries.
Speaker A:Vampires will come after me, but I can't grow vervain.
Speaker A:So you can dry an oven with that, or you can just throw out in the sun and leave it out there to dry.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:You may have to work worry about, like, trash pandas and other things coming on taking your hand to glory, but you just put it in the sun and let it sit there for a while and you'll be fine.
Speaker A:But we also have to make the candles, too.
Speaker A:And Diana is an expert candle crafter.
Speaker A:So if you want to make expert.
Speaker B:Might be a stretch, but I'll take.
Speaker A:Take it.
Speaker A:You've made hundreds of candles.
Speaker A:So if you want to make this candle, though, I know you prefer soy or beeswax, but for these, you're probably better off grabbing the fat from your murderer.
Speaker A:So let's scrape some fat.
Speaker A:Off course.
Speaker B:I think it makes sense.
Speaker B:That's being eco friendly, right?
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:Nose to tail.
Speaker A:Nose to tail.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:So you got to use everything.
Speaker A:So you also got to use this hair.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So we don't want to let any part of this murderer goes to waste.
Speaker A:So we can use the hair to make a wick.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So it's going to come out of something smells so bad.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I already have a note.
Speaker A:This is going to smell so great.
Speaker A:So if you do it that way and then you do put those candles between the fingers and that'll make your.
Speaker A:Your hand of glory.
Speaker A:Or you could also dip the entire hand in wax.
Speaker A:So you can get a bucket of wax that's.
Speaker A:That's warm and then you dip your corpse hand in it and then you.
Speaker B:Pull it out and then the human fat, that wax bucket, the human hand, that.
Speaker B:The cured hand in it.
Speaker A:Oh, you know, it's a wax.
Speaker A:Just normal.
Speaker A:Doesn't have to be the.
Speaker A:That that's a fat if you're actually making a tallow candle.
Speaker A:So a wax would just.
Speaker A:You could use your beeswax or your soy, depending on how eco friendly you want to be.
Speaker A:And then you just take your corpse hand and you put your corpse hand in the wax.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then you can just light the hand on fire.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So you vague candles, you made finger candles which as they burn are going to smell fantastic.
Speaker A:Like it's gonna be fuck you, Bath and Body Works.
Speaker A:You've got nothing on my hand of Glory.
Speaker A:My hand of glory is so, so great.
Speaker A:So what can you.
Speaker A:Now that you've crafted this, what can you do with your new craft item?
Speaker B:Well, that's important.
Speaker B:You got to know.
Speaker A:You got to know what you can sell them because they are very rare.
Speaker A:I did try to Internet shop for a real Hand of Glory.
Speaker A:You can buy lots of fake Hands of Glory.
Speaker A:I may not have found the place in the Dark Web to buy the actual one.
Speaker A:And I'm sure maybe like I really wanted to get like a dark Occ shopping expedition.
Speaker A:But the only note.
Speaker B:So how many, like, did you just, like, really, like, up the game level of your Internet search history?
Speaker B:Is that what just happened?
Speaker A:You're saying, did I open up my Tor browser?
Speaker A:And so I'm just saying how many.
Speaker B:How many more watch lists are you on after this?
Speaker B:That's what I want to know.
Speaker A:I wasn't searching with, like, dead hand.
Speaker A:I was looking.
Speaker A:I guess maybe I should have done that.
Speaker A:But there wasn't one for sale.
Speaker A:There was not one for sale on ebay or Etsy.
Speaker A:I will say that nobody.
Speaker A:In fact, the only known surviving one is in the Whitney Whitby Museum in England.
Speaker A:That was discovered in the 20th century inside a cottage by a local historian named Joseph Ford, and he identified it.
Speaker A: It was given to the Whitby in: Speaker A:And that's allegedly the only one that's known to have survived.
Speaker A:I'm sure there are others.
Speaker A:You know, slide into my DMs if you want to sell me one.
Speaker A:You know, just.
Speaker A:You know, they're also really gross.
Speaker A:You saw it in this episode.
Speaker A:They're not attractive.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:But if you don't sell it, you can also, while it's burning, either with candles or fingers, depending on your things, it will freeze people in their tracks and render.
Speaker A:Or render them speechless, Which.
Speaker A:Fuck.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is why I'm like, hey, slide into my DMs.
Speaker A:I can make people shut up and see.
Speaker A:Like, just burnt.
Speaker B:Like, this is Liz's dream come true.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't have to listen to stupid people talk anymore.
Speaker A:I can just light my Hand of glory and shut up.
Speaker B:The Internet, like, the Internet's a crazy fucking place.
Speaker B:I mean, you can get a hand,.
Speaker A:I'm sure, but can I make the people on the Internet stop talking?
Speaker A:Like, can I use this in a Twitter fight?
Speaker B:You don't know unless you get the fucking hand, Liz.
Speaker A:Yeah, so we're gonna find that out.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker A:Or what they're usually used for is if you want to break into somebody's house.
Speaker A:This is why they are the favorite thing of thieves.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker A:So you want to break into somebody's house, you burn your hand of Glory, not your actual hand.
Speaker A:Use the hand of Glory to burn your own hand.
Speaker A:Make sure you know which hand.
Speaker B:It's much harder to break into things if your hand is, like, blistering on fire.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:If your hand is on fire, it's hard to open a door.
Speaker A:So burn the other hand, and then that makes sure that everybody in the house is asleep.
Speaker A:But if you can't burn the thumb, that means that somebody is still awake and you can't go in the house.
Speaker A:So all the fingers have to light up, and then you can go inside.
Speaker A:But if you can't burn the thumb, then you can't get it.
Speaker A:So if you're a homeowner, though, and you want to protect against the person who's outside burning dead man's hands, you can make a counter charm.
Speaker A:So we're going to go crafting again.
Speaker A:So you got to make it.
Speaker A:Wait.
Speaker A:Ointment.
Speaker A:Because we.
Speaker A:We love an ointment.
Speaker A:And unfortunately, to make this, you've got to get the blood of a screech owl, the fat from hens, and the bile of black cat.
Speaker A:And then you take that ointment and then you smear it on your threshold.
Speaker A:And no thieves can come in or Jehovah's Witnesses or whatever else like you want to.
Speaker A:Nobody else is coming in your house.
Speaker B:And no one else.
Speaker B:Because that's going to smell awful.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, because you killed a cat and a.
Speaker A:And a chicken and also a screech owl.
Speaker A:And so you're a fucking psychopath.
Speaker A:So no one's coming to your house,.
Speaker B:So you have to kill the cat to get the bile.
Speaker A:I mean, my cat vomited on the floor like, last week.
Speaker B:Cats throw up, like, a lot.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can get the cat.
Speaker A:But the blood of the screech out.
Speaker B:Blood of a screech owl and the hen fat, those seem like.
Speaker A:Yeah, well, I guess.
Speaker A:I mean, I love hen fat.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:Oh, my God, like a fried chicken skin, like, with those, like.
Speaker A:So now I'm just picturing like a screech owl.
Speaker B:So,.
Speaker A:Like Dustin dust.
Speaker B:I'm just upset about the owl now, basically.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So now the owl is the only thing we're concerned about.
Speaker A:Everything else you can probably get.
Speaker A:But anyways, so that is how you repel it.
Speaker A:You can also use your hand of glory as a theory and an unsolved murder.
Speaker A:So we're going to talk real fast about one of my favorite unsolved murders, which is who put Bella in the witch elm?
Speaker A:So have you ever heard of who put Bella in the witchel?
Speaker A: o this happened in England in: Speaker A: So in: Speaker A:I think they were poaching.
Speaker A:According to most stories, there was a particular tree there that was known as a witch elm.
Speaker A:It was an elm tree and which is spelled W Y, C, H, Not W I T, C, H, but W, Which.
Speaker A:But that's also because the roots of the tree look like witch hair.
Speaker A:So these boys are out poaching in the woods or walking, whatever, and they found a skull in the tree.
Speaker A:And they're like, what the fuck?
Speaker A:So they're like, can't tell anybody.
Speaker A:And one of them was like, I'm a child and I'm going to tell my father because I'm a child and.
Speaker B:I was a child and I just found a fucking skull in a tree.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so the authorities were called in, and they found skeletal remains along with the remnants of clothing and also finger bones that were all the way around the trunk.
Speaker A:And so nobody knew, like, who this was.
Speaker A:And so a pathologist named Professor James Webster, he concluded that this was likely a woman.
Speaker A:She was 35 to 40 years old, and she had been placed while still warm into the tree.
Speaker A:And she'd been in the tree for at least 18 months.
Speaker A:They think that her death was caused by asphyxiation because they found a portion of taffeta deep inside her mouth.
Speaker A:So she had, like, a dress or something that was shoved inside her throat.
Speaker A:And so they're like, who the fuck is this?
Speaker A:And nobody knows.
Speaker A:And so after six months, the bobbies, because that's.
Speaker A:I'm assuming they were British police officers.
Speaker A:They're bobbies.
Speaker A:The bobbies could not identify who she was.
Speaker A:And then all of a sudden, graffiti started appearing in the area that said, who put Ella in the witch Elm?
Speaker A:So there's this stuff that came.
Speaker A:They're like, okay, so now we're going to go after these graffiti artists.
Speaker A:They couldn't find them either because these bobbies sucked.
Speaker A:So I don't know, they sucked.
Speaker A: figure it out because it was: Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So then an anthropologist named Professor Margaret Murray comes along, and she is like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker A:There's a hand separated.
Speaker A:Somebody was making a hand of glory.
Speaker A:This is all ritual, is very occult.
Speaker A:And the press was like, go on.
Speaker A:Like, please, please tell us more about the occult.
Speaker A: e had a satanic panic then in: Speaker A:They're like, there's witches.
Speaker A:Clearly there witches here.
Speaker A:And they're like.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker A:They're like, oh, my God, there's this.
Speaker A:We found another body.
Speaker A:And they found a local man named Charles Walton in another village, and he was pinned to the ground with a pitchfork.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker A:And everyone's like, clearly, we've got occult witches running everywhere.
Speaker A:They're like, yeah, we can't figure it out.
Speaker A:So Scotland Yard even was like, oh, must be a witch.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But they still.
Speaker A:They still couldn't figure it out.
Speaker A:So since she could not be found in missing persons records at the time, they were.
Speaker A:They would suggest that she, a Foreigner.
Speaker A: Remember this is: Speaker A: So what's happening in: Speaker A:It's World War II, so we've got spies.
Speaker A:And so there is a theory that she was a German spy.
Speaker A:And those like, you know, if I was a spy, like maybe putting her in a tree wouldn't be like the best way.
Speaker A: so became more popularized in: Speaker A:And he talked about both killings of Bella and also the guy who'd been stabbed with a pitchfork and his theory that she'd been a Nazi spy named Clara Bella and that she was recruited and given the code name Clara.
Speaker A: nto Cambridgeshire in January: Speaker A:And he had a picture of the cabaret singer and German movie actress Clara Ballaire.
Speaker A:And so he told his interrogators like, oh yes, this picture, she is my lover.
Speaker A:We met in Hamburg while she was singing.
Speaker A:And you know, she was supposed to parachuted after, after I got here and established radio contact, but since I was captured I couldn't send in.
Speaker A:But I guess she parachuted and you know, I didn't touch her.
Speaker A:So I guess this is clear era.
Speaker A:And so one thing to note about Jakobs or it was that he was the last person to be put to death at the Tower of London.
Speaker A:I think that's an interesting fact.
Speaker A:But pretty much this theory was disproved because the woman who.
Speaker A: nger, whatever, Clara died in: Speaker A:So they're like, well that's what her sister said.
Speaker A:They're all people like, well, maybe she lied, maybe she didn't really.
Speaker A:But no, it was her.
Speaker A:There are also theories that Bella was a Dutch, Dutch woman who worked as a sex worker and disappeared after the man responsible for her death died in a mental hospital.
Speaker A:Okay, so that story is there.
Speaker A:Somebody wrote a letter into the newspaper and it was like, hey, my brother, or some guy, I don't know his brother, whatever.
Speaker A:Basically he took prostitute, this Dutch prostitute into the woods and, and killed her.
Speaker A:But like he put her in a tree, didn't think she was dead, she came back, she was dead.
Speaker A:And then he freaked out and got put into a mental hospital.
Speaker A:But you know, that wasn't proven either.
Speaker A:They also think that she could have been a refugee because there was a lot of refugees in England at the time because of World War II.
Speaker A:Or just some woman that nobody reported missing because they didn't care.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Which is sad, but happy happens.
Speaker B:But nobody knows.
Speaker A:They still don't know.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's what's weird.
Speaker B:Says no one still knows.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:It is a large mystery.
Speaker A:There are many podcasts about this and many stories, but who put Ella in the witch home?
Speaker A:Was she there to make a hand of glory?
Speaker A:Nobody knows.
Speaker B:Interesting.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:So let's get back to our lovely boys and Bella.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:And so Bella basically wants them to help her find and destroy the hand, but there's a catch.
Speaker B:So we cut to a scene in their.
Speaker B:The living room of the squad house, which is all decked out with a bunch of candles and shit and looks kind of nice.
Speaker B:And Bella is in formal attire and looks fucking lovely.
Speaker A:And damn good wiggle dress.
Speaker A:Like, it was such a good dress.
Speaker A:And her necklace was amazing.
Speaker A:Like, just.
Speaker B:She looks great.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:All around.
Speaker B:And she implies that Sam is on a date while Dean's coming down the stairs in a tux.
Speaker B:He thinks he looks ridiculous, but she says, but.
Speaker B:But Bella hesitates, then says to him, you probably noted this one too.
Speaker B:Is that, you know, when this is over, we really should have angry sex.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then Dean tells her not to.
Speaker B:Objectify him, which is funny too, because he.
Speaker B:Then he's.
Speaker B:But he's smiling as the.
Speaker B:As he walks away.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Everyone's horny.
Speaker A:There's just hand jobs all around.
Speaker B:Very horny episode.
Speaker B:Hand hands of Glory for everyone.
Speaker B:Anyways, so we're arriving at the Sea Pines Maritime Museum for his private event, and Bella gets pissed because Dean's chewing gum and that he sticks under the edge of the punch.
Speaker A:He does.
Speaker A:He does that.
Speaker B:So uncouth.
Speaker B:So uncouth.
Speaker A:And now we find generally disgusting.
Speaker A:That's just not uncouth.
Speaker A:Don't put your gum places people.
Speaker A:Like, this is gross.
Speaker B:So then we do find out where Sam is on his date.
Speaker B:And I know Liz is quite thrilled with this.
Speaker A:Gertie.
Speaker B:He's with Gertie.
Speaker B:And she is all about it.
Speaker B:She is all over him.
Speaker B:And so he.
Speaker B:But he is not handling as well, which is kind of annoying.
Speaker B:For the record.
Speaker B:Record, I got kind of irritated about this.
Speaker B:Not for any reason, except for the fact that they pretend to be people all the time to, like, get the answers they need and pull off.
Speaker B:And he's being a bitch about somebody flirting with him.
Speaker B:Like, get over yourself.
Speaker B:Like, that's.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:She's not.
Speaker B:Like, she's not like, let me you, Sam.
Speaker B:Like, she's not, like, being, like, gross.
Speaker B:She's just, like, very, like, you know, like, oh, let me curse you and tell you about my womanly wild.
Speaker A:You know, it's like a dirty old lady.
Speaker B:She's not being gross.
Speaker B:She's just being, like, super, like, over the top.
Speaker B:Like, probably a lot, but still, like, entertain her.
Speaker B:He's so, like a.
Speaker A:Like, how dare you like me?
Speaker A:Like, she's.
Speaker A:She's so vile.
Speaker A:Because she's old.
Speaker B:The crow.
Speaker A:The crowd is after me.
Speaker B:You don't have to bang her, Sam.
Speaker B:But you can be, like, trying to not be an asshole.
Speaker B:And, like, you pretend to be 8 million different people all the fucking time.
Speaker B:And you can't pretend to like this woman or at least not be grossed out by her for fucking hours.
Speaker B:Really, to solve this goddamn case.
Speaker B:I would have been so mad.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, also, I mean, she's just adorable.
Speaker B:I mean, like, I agree, but that's why, like, that's what made it even worse.
Speaker A:I would be flirting.
Speaker A:Like, you should be flirting with her like that.
Speaker A:To me, it should be your natural reaction.
Speaker A:Should be to flirt back.
Speaker B:Like, come on.
Speaker B:So annoying.
Speaker A:But get it, Gertie.
Speaker A:Your hair is down and you look beautiful.
Speaker A:So you get.
Speaker A:You get your little moito way.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And so Sam slams some champagne.
Speaker B:Well, this.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker B:Well, that's going on downstairs.
Speaker B:And basically the idea is that the whole plan is that they use Gertie to get invitations to the event.
Speaker B:And at this maritime museum is where this hand of glory is from.
Speaker B:This guy that they need to collect and burn.
Speaker B:So Dean and Bella have to figure out how to get upstairs to where the hand is being stored.
Speaker A:Board.
Speaker B:And there's a bunch of security.
Speaker B:So, like, well, what the fuck?
Speaker B:And Dean can't come up with any ideas.
Speaker B:So Bella just takes things into her own hands and pretends to faint.
Speaker B:So it's this.
Speaker B:I found this really funny.
Speaker B:So I don't want to, like, go step by step there, but it's pretty hilarious.
Speaker B:So he helps, like, oh, laser down.
Speaker B:Like, Dean doesn't let her bust her ass completely and calls the waiter over who's like, oh, my God, is she okay?
Speaker B:He's like, she has a severe shellfish allergy.
Speaker B:Is there crab in those?
Speaker B:The waiter's like, no.
Speaker B:And so Dean grabs one and shoves one in his mouth.
Speaker A:Everybody loves a can.
Speaker A:Okay, okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Give me your finger.
Speaker A:Give me your finger.
Speaker A:Food.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker A:Don't worry.
Speaker A:I have another hand joke that's coming up in a second, but Tanna's like, stop with your hand jokes.
Speaker A:Okay, go on.
Speaker B:So security guard comes over, and so Dean just implies that she's loaded and can't.
Speaker B:In a lightweight that can't hold her booze.
Speaker B:So is there somewhere that she can lay down?
Speaker B:And so it gets them upstairs.
Speaker A:I also love that the security guard is like, not phased by this at all.
Speaker A:It's just like a goddamn.
Speaker A:Another drunk rich person.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, fine, just layer up here.
Speaker A:They also, by the way, the security guards are like cops.
Speaker A:And they brought that up like it was a point and then it never.
Speaker A:Nothing happened with that.
Speaker A:I guess maybe they're like, trying to say they weren't just like, like normal rental cops or something.
Speaker A:But why.
Speaker A:Why are you saying this?
Speaker A:Like, they don't none of them act like smart detectives or anything.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:No, I mean, they're security guards for a private party.
Speaker B:They're not trying to do a bunch of.
Speaker B:And so they get her upstairs, lay her down on the sofa in, like, this study kind of room.
Speaker B:And the security guard, you're going to leave, and he's like, oh, you think she's paying the ass now?
Speaker B:Try living with her is what Dean says.
Speaker B:Trying to imply that.
Speaker B:And anyways, so Dean's annoyed that Bella didn't tell him the plan.
Speaker B:And she's like, well, I didn't want you thinking.
Speaker B:I just wanted you to like, just do so.
Speaker B:Go find the fucking hand.
Speaker B:Here's where it's at.
Speaker B:So she sends him off on his mission.
Speaker B:We do cut to a scene, and I think you'll like.
Speaker B:I think this is one that you probably have noted where Sam and Gertie are dancing and she's getting a little handsy.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's what I have.
Speaker A:I have.
Speaker A:Gertie is so handsy.
Speaker A:Ha ha.
Speaker A:Hands all the hamster.
Speaker A:So many of them.
Speaker B:And then she tells him that he reminds her of her late husband, who is shy too.
Speaker B:Until we get below deck.
Speaker B:Gertie.
Speaker A:Gertie goals, yes.
Speaker A:I cannot wait to be like that old woman who does not give a fuck.
Speaker A:I mean, not that I give many fucks now, but, like, to have like, the last the fuck stripping away.
Speaker A:And Liz being like, hello, hot young stud.
Speaker A:I am just going to fucking objectify you and molest you until.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So we come back upstairs and, you know, Dean's trying to break into the case where the hand was.
Speaker B:And Bella's kind of just like looking around this office that she's locked in.
Speaker B:They're in separate rooms right now.
Speaker B:The security guard, though, Pops by to check on them.
Speaker B:And Bella really thinks on her feet at this point and kind of like dishevels herself a bit.
Speaker B:Opens the door with her lipstick kind of smeared and all that.
Speaker B:And obviously it's giggling and implying that her and.
Speaker B:And Dean are.
Speaker B:Which is clever.
Speaker B:And it's like, oh, can we have just a few more minutes?
Speaker B:And this girl is like, whatevs.
Speaker B:And as he's walking off, though, he bumps into Dean, who thanks him for helping take care of his wife and security implies that his wife's screwing someone else.
Speaker B:That's pretty funny.
Speaker B:It's a funny little scene.
Speaker B:But yeah.
Speaker A:So now we have the hand.
Speaker B:And we have the hand.
Speaker B:And the hand is gross.
Speaker B:I agree.
Speaker B:And he won't let Bella hold it.
Speaker B:For good reason.
Speaker A:He won't let Bella hold his hand.
Speaker B:I want to hold your hand.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:So Sam and Gertie are still dancing.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:She whispers in Sam's ears, yeah,.
Speaker B:She wants to know if the brothers deaths, the two brothers that had died, is connected to Sheila.
Speaker B:And she thinks that they could be connected.
Speaker B:It could be something biblical.
Speaker B:And that there are rumors that the brothers had killed their father and that's how they got rich.
Speaker B:And Sheila was in a car accident as a teenager and her cousin died.
Speaker B:So Sam starting to get, like, trying to piece together, like, okay, somebody around them passed away.
Speaker B:And trying to see what the detail is.
Speaker B:At this time, though, Bella and Dean walk up and.
Speaker B:And so they're like, it, ready to leave.
Speaker B:But Dean says to Sam, you stink like sex.
Speaker A:And Gertie's also loaded at this time.
Speaker A:So, like, am I now?
Speaker A:Like, it's just fucking wasted on champagne goals again.
Speaker A:Good, Gertie.
Speaker B:And she's like, whispering to Bella, he wants me.
Speaker A:And he does.
Speaker A:He definitely wants.
Speaker A:Should Sam.
Speaker A:You should.
Speaker A:So then Sam tells Dean, you got it right.
Speaker A:Tell me I didn't get groped by all night by Mrs. Havisham for nothing.
Speaker A:Who was, if you don't know, a character from Dickens, Great Expectations.
Speaker A:And she was a spinster who took an 8 an interest in the main character.
Speaker A:So that is where that came from.
Speaker A:And so it's just Sam being a dick.
Speaker A:So we're back to I fucking hate Sam.
Speaker B:Sam's like a total dick in this episode.
Speaker B:Episode.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And then they go in the car and that's when they're looking for, you know, he's going to show him the hand.
Speaker B:And the hands fucking gone.
Speaker B:It was swapped for a chip and a bottle.
Speaker A:Your hand job failed.
Speaker A:So Bella took it.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker A:And then we're going to cut to Bella, and she's got a huge bag of cash.
Speaker A:I'm like, well, clearly, like, I like, what was your buyer like outside the museum?
Speaker A:Or was it girl Gertie?
Speaker A:Ooh, that is one thing I pondered.
Speaker A:Because we don't see Gertie again for the rest of the episode, do we?
Speaker A:So I think maybe Gertie was in on this and that she wanted the hand to go away for herself because she wants to go rob things.
Speaker A:Because she is a older lady.
Speaker A:She's a bad bitch, and she's running around the country and she's just, like,.
Speaker B:Robbing things around the world.
Speaker B:Around the world.
Speaker A:She's around the world and she's fucking young dudes and her hair is down and she's got her.
Speaker A:Her dead hair hand.
Speaker A:Her dead handiclore.
Speaker B:Well, Bella's got this load of cash, but also what happens?
Speaker B:She looks up as there's some lightning in the distance and sees the ghost ship.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:So Sam and Dean are back at their squatter house.
Speaker B:Dean's pissed.
Speaker B:He's like, talking about killing or torturing Bella.
Speaker B:Sam tells him to relax.
Speaker B:He's like, look.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, she got one over on you, and then guess who's at the door?
Speaker B:But Bella, she wants to explain.
Speaker B:And apparently her whole thing is that, you know, she knew about the ship and how to, you know, about the.
Speaker B:All along, but now she can't get the hand back in time because she sold it.
Speaker B:And so that's when they're like, wait, what do you mean in time?
Speaker B:So she tells him that she saw the fucking ghost ship.
Speaker B:At this point, though, Sam's figured out the motive and how these deaths are connected, and it's people who have spilled their own family's blood.
Speaker B:So Dean's like, well, then who did you kill?
Speaker B:And she tells him it's none of their business and won't explain it.
Speaker B:They're like, all right, well, fine.
Speaker B:Bye.
Speaker B:They're not gonna help her,.
Speaker A:Which is kind of shitty.
Speaker B:It is after they say, like, they try to help people all the time, but she's like, no, I really need your help.
Speaker B:And Dean calls her out, though.
Speaker B:He's like, what?
Speaker B:From a couple of serial killers?
Speaker B:And she admits that it was very harsh, but it doesn't warrant a death sentence.
Speaker B:Sentence.
Speaker A:It doesn't.
Speaker B:That's fair.
Speaker A:Quit being dicks.
Speaker B:Yeah, so Sam says, you know, he wants.
Speaker B:Sam really wants to know what she did, though.
Speaker B:And he's just like, no, you're not going to understand.
Speaker B:No one in her.
Speaker B:Her little side is.
Speaker B:No one did.
Speaker B:So she's like, I'll just have to go do it myself.
Speaker B:And she, Dean points out though that she sold the only thing to save her life.
Speaker B:And she said maybe not the only thing.
Speaker B:So of course, where are we now their favorite location?
Speaker B:Cemetery.
Speaker A:Cemetery, Yep.
Speaker A:We got an altar.
Speaker A:We got an altar.
Speaker A:We got candles, we got Pinnacle.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And they're all set up.
Speaker A:What was foreshadowed in the beginning on the radio.
Speaker A:The storm.
Speaker A:The storm is here.
Speaker A:Oh no.
Speaker B:And Dean tells Sam to start reading.
Speaker B:Sam.
Speaker B:Dean's standing around with a shotgun.
Speaker B:And the storm just like starts totally whipping up.
Speaker B:And Dean's watching Bella because she just wants to make sure that watch if she gets attacked by the spirit.
Speaker B:So the wet dude shows up, wet long haired dude.
Speaker B:And he throws Dean because these spirits are really strong and do that every time.
Speaker B:And the shotgun goes off in the air, which is really weird too by the way.
Speaker B:But the wet dude grabs Bella's face and water starts coming out of her mouth while Sam is still chanting in the background.
Speaker B:It's pretty intense scene actually because the water shooting reading out of their mouth is very upsetting.
Speaker B:Yeah, like I don't like him because like you can kind of like imagine like what that would feel like.
Speaker B:The drown feeling.
Speaker B:I don't like it.
Speaker B:So as Sam finishes the storms whipping up.
Speaker B:It's like just all this chaos going on.
Speaker B:As Sam finishes reading, the storm is kind of starting to wrap up.
Speaker B:And there's the wet, wet dude is standing there.
Speaker B:And you kind of hear the ship creaking noises again.
Speaker B:Like that watery squeaky creakiness noise.
Speaker B:And then the captain that we had seen in a photo earlier also appears, also very wet.
Speaker B:And it ends up that they were brothers.
Speaker B:And the captain apologizes for hanging his own brother.
Speaker B:But long haired wet dude is not having it.
Speaker B:And then they splash together.
Speaker B:Disappear.
Speaker B:They splash together.
Speaker A:Is that like they splash together.
Speaker A:I don't know how I put it.
Speaker A:So I was like.
Speaker A:I think I said they absorb each other.
Speaker A:So when you know, we get their.
Speaker B:Spirits connect and there's a splash of water and then they're gone.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So we know that he was not doing an exorcism.
Speaker A:Which is probably a lot of people's initial thoughts.
Speaker A:He was doing a summoning.
Speaker A:So we have summoned the other guy there who now we have two brothers.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:Who have been summoned.
Speaker A:And one of them is really mad at the other one and the other one's not listening.
Speaker A:And then they just mush together.
Speaker A:Together.
Speaker A:So there's, you know, so they mush together.
Speaker A:And so Ivan Hayden, who is the VFX or business special effects supervisor, basically said, you know, this was shot in like a thousand frames per second.
Speaker A:And there was water buckets that I read similar to.
Speaker A:Also there was water balloons that were being thrown.
Speaker A:So just like.
Speaker A:Like this idea of people just like throwing water balloons at this guy as they're filming it.
Speaker A:And they do so.
Speaker A:But it's a really great effect.
Speaker A:Like the two.
Speaker A:It's a really cool effect.
Speaker B:I was just laughing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Happened.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't really understand what happened.
Speaker A:Like, I really.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Like, you didn't move on.
Speaker A:You just became like.
Speaker A:Did you not just melt into a super ghost?
Speaker B:I mean, our boys.
Speaker B:That a forgiveness splash or was it a mad splash or did they just meld?
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:But how did they go away?
Speaker A:And I don't.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:It was weird.
Speaker B:But Bella.
Speaker B:Bella survived.
Speaker B:She stopped puking water.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:So, yeah, Bella lived.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So Sam and dinner the next day, of course, like it always is.
Speaker B:It's the next morning, everything's sunny and fine.
Speaker B:Sam and Dana are packing and Bella walks in and she just is throwing like these big old fat stacks of cash at him because she doesn't want a debt.
Speaker B:And money is easier than saying thank you is what Dean points out.
Speaker A:She's not wrong.
Speaker A:I'm like, yeah, if I can just like.
Speaker A:Instead of like using emotions, if I can just give you cash.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So he could also call her damaged and she says, takes one to no one.
Speaker A:Also, again, not wrong.
Speaker B:And I like Sam's follow up.
Speaker B:She's got style.
Speaker B:Got to give her that.
Speaker B:Oh, fair.
Speaker B:That too.
Speaker B:So she buys off them saving her life by throwing stacks of cash at them.
Speaker B:So where does Dean want to go as they get back on the road?
Speaker B:Atlantic City.
Speaker A:Yeah, like the worst place ever to go, but yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, cool.
Speaker A:So we're gonna go to a place.
Speaker B:And he just wants to bet on black on roulette.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker A:So we're gonna get into another thing.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker A:All right, so they're in the car and they're driving and Sam's gonna bring shit up again.
Speaker A:Of course he.
Speaker B:He is.
Speaker A:Because Sam's little bitch.
Speaker A:And they basically, Sam's getting all emotional again and he's like, I just want you to give a crap that you're dying.
Speaker A:And then Dean does what you're supposed to do and shoves his emotions down and it's like, yeah, whatever.
Speaker A:Like, let's just go.
Speaker A:Let's just go to Legacy.
Speaker B:And, yeah, he wants to go play craps instead of roulette.
Speaker B:But I thought, you know, I do feel like Sam.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:So I'm annoyed with Sam harping on this.
Speaker B:To be fair.
Speaker B:Yes, he.
Speaker B:Sam's being a bitch, but, you know, but leading into this, Dean does tell Sam, look, I understand why you went to the crossroads, and.
Speaker B:But I also know you're going to be okay.
Speaker B:I'm sorry for putting you through all this.
Speaker B:And that's when Sam really is like, I just want you to get that.
Speaker B:Sam gets mad at that.
Speaker B:And he's like, I just want to give a crap about yourself.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And then that's kind of like.
Speaker B:Well, the implication is that he's gone from being selfish to selfless in some way.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:It's very weird.
Speaker B:It's a very weird thing.
Speaker B:Like, it's kind of like a circular argument and accusation they've made.
Speaker B:So it is annoying, though, this.
Speaker B:This whole thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:So that's it.
Speaker A:I honestly, like, it's a very fun.
Speaker B:Episode other than the bitching.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, is there anything, like, super amazing in it?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Was it well written?
Speaker A:Were the wine liners.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:One liners were phenomenal.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:That's what I was meaning.
Speaker B:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It was a fun.
Speaker B:It was fun.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:The very, you know, introspective commentary we have in the end of the.
Speaker A:It was fine.
Speaker A:You know, it was.
Speaker B:It's fine.
Speaker A:It's fine.
Speaker A:I didn't hate the episode.
Speaker A:And I love Abella.
Speaker A:I think she's great.
Speaker A:I love Gertie.
Speaker A:I think Gertie is a great character.
Speaker A:Not to be a spoiler alert, Gertie does not come back.
Speaker A:She should.
Speaker A:You had 15 seasons to bring that bitch back and you didn't.
Speaker A:That's a shame out of you guys.
Speaker A:Shame on you, Eric.
Speaker A:Um, so anyways, I think that's it.
Speaker A:So I think we gotta go pack.
Speaker A:We gotta go pack.
Speaker A:And by pack, I mean I need to put it off until the last minute.
Speaker A:Guess I've even done my laundry.
Speaker A:All right, so until we see you in New Orleans.
Speaker A:Cheers.
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