3:08 A Very Supernatural Christmas
It's the most wonderful time of the year - the time for Pagan Gods to start snacking on the rents. It's Supernatural, Season Three, Episode Eight "A Very Supernatural Christmas." We talk about the Anti-Klaus around the world.
Doing some last-minute Hexmas shopping? Liz's Haunted Home Shopping Network brings you the finest spellwork Ebay has to offer. Which isn't much and costs way too much money. Especially in shipping.
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"Belsnickel." All That's Interesting, All That's Interesting, https://allthatsinteresting.com/belsnickel.
"Belsnickel." Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belsnickel.
"Black Pete." All That's Interesting, allthatsinteresting.com/black-pete.
"Krampus." Mythus Wiki, mythus.fandom.com/wiki/Krampus.
"Krampus." Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krampus.
Transcript
On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we've got Santa porn.
Speaker B:We talk about the newest metal band, Anti Claus.
Speaker A:When mixing your holiday cocktails this year, be sure that you can taste the pagan.
Speaker B:And we give you the hottest take on the latest news story.
Speaker B:Will the supply chain problems affect amulet prime?
Speaker B:Let's do this.
Speaker A:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast.
Speaker A:I'm Diana.
Speaker B:I'm Chilly Liz.
Speaker A:Chilly Liz.
Speaker A:And this week we're going to talk about season three, episode eight of Supernatural, a very supernatural Christmas.
Speaker B:Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Speaker B:There we go.
Speaker B:That was my holiday spirit.
Speaker B:I made a holiday sweater, I will tell you that.
Speaker B:So, I mean, it's a holiday sweater with a demon and a cat on it, but it's still a holiday sweater.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:Whereas.
Speaker A:Whereas I go get fancy holiday nails done because that's what I do.
Speaker B:Did you do your nails yet?
Speaker B:That's not yet.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Green glitter and black with crystal.
Speaker A:Crystal snowflakes.
Speaker A:Boom.
Speaker A:So there we go.
Speaker B:You're falling.
Speaker B:That is definitely some Ballerdale.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So what's up with you?
Speaker B:What's up with you?
Speaker A:I spent my weekend mostly baking because a fact about me, I don't do a lot baking throughout the year.
Speaker A:Once or twice I'll get like a wild hairline.
Speaker A:I make some cookies, but Christmas, I turn into a crazy person and I make a gazillion cookies and I give them to my.
Speaker A:Some of our local friends and coworkers and things like that.
Speaker A:That's what I.
Speaker A:That's my gifting thing that I do.
Speaker A:And I don't know why I can't help myself, but I do this every year and I make myself crazy.
Speaker A:But I spent literally all day Saturday baking.
Speaker A:All day.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So tell our listeners all two of them, how many different types of cookies you made on Saturday.
Speaker A: e we've made every year since: Speaker A:I made brown butter chocolate chip cookies.
Speaker A:I made red velvet cake cookies and Which I will turn into.
Speaker A:Haven't yet.
Speaker A:I've got to ice them and turn them into sandwiches with cream cheese icing.
Speaker A:That's a step I haven't made.
Speaker B:Nom nom nom.
Speaker A:And then I made sugar cookies from scratch, too.
Speaker A:And some of those, I put the cinnamon candies on those.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And then I still need to.
Speaker A:I've already made the filling, but I've got to put together my oreo balls they need.
Speaker A:I gotta roll my balls and dip them in chocolate.
Speaker B:Everyone leaves some chocolate balls.
Speaker B:And how many steps did you take in the kitchen on Saturday?
Speaker A:Uh, I was at 9,700 steps on in the kitchen.
Speaker A:I had to change running.
Speaker A:I was wearing running shoes so my feet and back wouldn't hurt.
Speaker A:I had to change running shoes at one point in the day because I do have more than one pair of athletic shoes because my feet and back started hurting because I spent so much time on my feet.
Speaker B:Yeah, I just wanted to emphasize crazy woman.
Speaker B:Crazy woman.
Speaker B:But also she has a spreadsheet.
Speaker B:She also has a spreadsheet with all the shit in there and tells it like when all the things have to go in.
Speaker B:And she loves making that spreadsheet.
Speaker B:She fucking loves it.
Speaker A:There's a lot of lists, checklists involved.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:But we also had some fun this weekend.
Speaker A:We went to a really fun Argentinian steakhouse with a friend on Friday night and this beautiful bar afterwards, all in Bishop Arts District.
Speaker A:Chimichurri is the name of the Argentinian steakhouse, you know, appropriately.
Speaker A:And then, and then that inspired.
Speaker A:So we're having.
Speaker A:I made Jimmy Cherry at the house.
Speaker B:Now because I'm like, oh, I need some fucking chimichurri now.
Speaker A:And then, now I'm going to have.
Speaker B:To make it too, because now I'm just like, damn, this is delicious.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:So, and then I also got that had a chance to go to a little late afternoon girls brunch on Sunday and we popped into one of the super Christmassy pop ups in Bishop Arts as well in Oak Cliff in Dallas.
Speaker A:And it's called like, what, Tipsy Elf?
Speaker A:Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker A:And it's just like Christmas in your motherfucking face all over.
Speaker B:I appreciate that.
Speaker A:So, yeah, what are you up to?
Speaker A:You've been having fun.
Speaker B:I am bundled up in an Airbnb in Brooklyn.
Speaker B:I flew in Thursday.
Speaker B:Thursday was not a ton of stuff because it's very tired.
Speaker B:I had no sleep and friend of mine got together and I just hung out at her place and then we went and got tacos.
Speaker B:And then there was an.
Speaker B:There was bingo there that night.
Speaker B:And it was just being hosted by this woman who I'm pretty sure had a failed improv career.
Speaker B:And the only thing she could do now was like, bingo.
Speaker B:And there was like five people playing and we played like the first round and I'm like, look, I don't have a dauber or a troll, so this is just stupid.
Speaker B:And you know, they're playing for, like, shots.
Speaker B:And, like, you know what I don't want right now while I'm fucking exhausted are shots.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But the tacos were good.
Speaker B:And we had.
Speaker B:This is my friend who I made the Muppet of.
Speaker B:And the Muppet came to get tacos with us, so she had a good time.
Speaker B:Then Friday, we went to the Museum of Moving Image in Queens, and I got to see the Muppet exhibit, which is the Jim Henson exhibit.
Speaker B:That's permanent exhibit there.
Speaker B:It's so good.
Speaker B:They're so like, oh, there was a decided lack of monsters.
Speaker B:I will complain about that.
Speaker B:There were only a couple of Muppet monsters there, but just they also had a special dark crystal exhibit.
Speaker B:So they had, like, the amazing pieces from there.
Speaker B:Like, oh, my God, the costumes that these puppets were in.
Speaker B:Like, how do have taken somebody, like, a year to make the amount of mixed materials and everything, all the detail.
Speaker B:And it was so good.
Speaker B:There was also some chick who kept crying, and we're just like.
Speaker B:She's like, I'm sorry to, like, just.
Speaker B:This is like, such a moment.
Speaker B:Like, don't give a fuck, man.
Speaker B:Like, yes, the Gafflings are great.
Speaker B:Like, I just need to get a picture of this.
Speaker B:Can you, like, stop taking all your selfies in front of it?
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:And they also had a Grinch exhibit which comes up in this.
Speaker B:So they had a bunch of all the, like, original cells that Chuck Jones did.
Speaker B:And they're fucking amazing that they were like wash on acrylic.
Speaker B:And so the colors were just, like, so, like, so popping out.
Speaker B:And just wanted, like.
Speaker B:I couldn't figure out that green, though, because of the green that he used with the Grinch.
Speaker B:It was so consistent across all of them.
Speaker B:I was like, how did he keep that color so consistent?
Speaker B:Did he have a formula?
Speaker B:I must know.
Speaker B:But that was great.
Speaker B:Then what do we do Saturday?
Speaker B:Oh, Saturday we went to a fancy dinner at the Strip house.
Speaker B:Because it's like a bordello meets steak, which had you.
Speaker B:And it was like, yeah, you had us at poor house.
Speaker B:They gave us the worst table in the house, which they told us, like, after they sat, they're like, oh, we're.
Speaker A:Gonna move this a little bit.
Speaker B:This is the worst table in the house.
Speaker B:I'm like, you just died, fuckers.
Speaker B:Like, you want to do whatever, but the food was good.
Speaker B:And then we went to Fancy BER at Dwayne park, and there are lots of aerialists, which made me happy.
Speaker B:There was a contortionist who was just a badass.
Speaker B:We also figured out that apparently the going out look right now, if you're a super urban lady, is pleather leggings and Muppet jackets.
Speaker B:So all the Muppets in the Jim Henson's exhibit were.
Speaker B:Apparently someone broke in the middle of the night and made a bunch of coats out of them.
Speaker B:And all the women in New York.
Speaker A:You just mean floofy faux fur jackets.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Although I was like, I really wish I had googly eyes.
Speaker A:And you're like.
Speaker A:And you're like, oh, I bet Diana owns this outfit.
Speaker A:And I probably do.
Speaker B:You probably do.
Speaker B:And I probably do, too.
Speaker B:Like, it's not wrong.
Speaker B:I mean, today I was the one who.
Speaker B:I got scared by the noise, like, leather leggings are making in the apartment.
Speaker B:Because I was like.
Speaker B:I just kept hearing the squishing.
Speaker B:And I was like, who the fuck is.
Speaker B:Like, where is this?
Speaker B:There's someone in the bathroom.
Speaker B:And then I was like, oh, it's your thighs rubbing together.
Speaker B:So we did that Saturday night.
Speaker B:It was great.
Speaker B:Then Sunday had.
Speaker A:Sunday was a marathon.
Speaker B:I had a marathon day.
Speaker B:Went and met one of my old girlfriends for brunch.
Speaker B:And we had Mexican.
Speaker B:We went and got some Mexican breakfast.
Speaker B:It was great.
Speaker B:Then we're like, oh, let's go to McSorley's Ale House.
Speaker B:So they went to McSorley's Ale house and had a bunch of ales there.
Speaker B:Then we went to Bowery Electric for Vinnie Stigma's birthday.
Speaker B:It was New York hardcore bands, so lots of olds.
Speaker B:Oh, so many olds and so many olds with babies.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:But there is this cute, like, these cute little, like, little girlfriends that were like.
Speaker B:And I asked, like, one of the dads was like, are these twins?
Speaker B:Because they were standing on the back.
Speaker B:They were standing.
Speaker B:Sitting on the back of two guys, shoulders holding hands while the bands are playing.
Speaker B:And it was the most adorable fucking thing ever.
Speaker B:And then this other guy had, like, a super baby in the bar, but she, like, she had her headphones on and she was sitting on our dad's shoulders and she was rocking out to everything.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:Yeah, my friend Frank, dj and I hung out with them.
Speaker B:Got hit by a door, like, a thousand times, standing in the DJ booth.
Speaker B:There was cake.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then we went to pianos to go see Hub City Stompers, which is a New York star band who I really like.
Speaker B:And we had a good time there.
Speaker B:Then I went to There's More and then we went to Double down and.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But then I left after, like, I think a beer there.
Speaker B:Although someone bought me a shot and I was like, God damn it.
Speaker B:It wasn't even as juice.
Speaker A:My first question was, was it ass juice?
Speaker A:Because it wasn't as juice.
Speaker A:The double down Saloon.
Speaker A:In both.
Speaker A:They have a location in Las Vegas, and they have, like, location in New York, which I didn't realize, but okay.
Speaker A:And their shot, like, their.
Speaker A:Their shot special is ass juice, and it's a fucking disgusting shot.
Speaker B:It's also Christmas.
Speaker B:And so right now, they have.
Speaker B:They have asnog, so you can get asnog if you would like.
Speaker A:But it is one of my.
Speaker B:That sounds gross, but that is one of my old New York hangouts that I'm glad is still there.
Speaker B:So got to do that.
Speaker B:Then yesterday, like, just worked and then went to a friend's apartment in the city for a vegan dinner.
Speaker B:My friend is a vegan chef.
Speaker B:You can find him at toss your own salad, which is.
Speaker B:He has a really great cookbook out.
Speaker B:Vegan food can be good.
Speaker B:It can be, but not when you're really hungover and want to die and all you want is a fucking cheeseburger.
Speaker A:And it's like, this is.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, yeah.
Speaker B:Like, I was like, oh, tofu.
Speaker B:I mean, I like tofu.
Speaker B:I order tofu today with my ramen.
Speaker B:But it was just like, I'm hungover, and I need, like, some grease and some.
Speaker B:Had a very long day.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's it.
Speaker B:And then today, I'm just hung out, kind of tutored around the neighborhood because it was cold, but not that cold.
Speaker B:Found a cute little bookstore, bought a book, and met my bodega cat, who I'm going to steal.
Speaker B:She's right next door to me.
Speaker B:She's a little black kitty.
Speaker B:And then also when I went to the liquor store to buy, which is segue into what are we drinking?
Speaker B:When I went to the liquor store to buy rum for the eggnog that I'm drinking, I did discover that that liquor store has a bowl full of dog treats.
Speaker B:So people bring in their dogs to the liquor store, and it is a magical, magical thing, especially because, you know what?
Speaker B:It's cold.
Speaker B:So what does that mean?
Speaker B:Dogs in sweaters, dogs in sweatshirts, dogs in vests.
Speaker B:I love them so much as they just, like, prance around.
Speaker B:And as much as I fucking hate.
Speaker B:As much as I hate that it's gonna snow tomorrow.
Speaker B:I'm crossing my fingers.
Speaker B:I get to see dog boots.
Speaker B:Because there's nothing I love more than watching a dog try and walk down the street in fucking dog boots.
Speaker A:They're very awkward.
Speaker A:Very awkward.
Speaker B:So awkward.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The dog in the liquor.
Speaker B:One of the dogs in the liquor store had a sweatshirt on that I'm pretty sure was a people sweatshirt.
Speaker A:That happens.
Speaker A:I've put a people sweatshirt on my dogs before.
Speaker B:I don't know, it just made it better.
Speaker B:I was just like, this will be cute.
Speaker A:He looks cold.
Speaker A:I may have been.
Speaker B:Just like.
Speaker B:I'm not cold.
Speaker B:Go away, woman.
Speaker B:Not your child.
Speaker A:So, Ash, do I. Ash just stands there.
Speaker A:He lets me do whatever.
Speaker A:He just stands there and looks at me like, what the fuck?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then the last thing I'll do tomorrow is now that Broadway's back open, trying to support the arts and go see Moulin Rouge if the weather doesn't turn shitty or work doesn't fuck me over.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Fingers crossed.
Speaker B:Fingers crossed.
Speaker A:Fingers crossed.
Speaker B:And so what are you drinking?
Speaker A:I am drinking Japanese whiskey and sugar free ginger ale.
Speaker B:Oh, that sounds delightful and fancy.
Speaker B:You're a fancy bitch today, Diana.
Speaker A:But it wasn't made for wine and I forgot I bought sugar free.
Speaker B:My eggnog has a cow on it, and it's a really cute cow.
Speaker A:So that's that.
Speaker A:It does have a cute cow.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And it's no hormones added and no antibiotics, so I'm glad there's no antibiotics in my eggnog.
Speaker A:Me too.
Speaker A:It's not very clear that that's not any hormones given to the cows or the.
Speaker B:It pretty much looks like this eggnog does not have hormones or antibiotics in.
Speaker A:It, but, you know, like, farmland brand egg eggnog has a really cute cow on it and very questionable labeling.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'll take a picture and send it to you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, yeah, that's my.
Speaker A:That's my cocktail for the evening, since I thought it sounded good.
Speaker B:No, that sounds amazing and just like very, like a lovely thing to sip on.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:It's quite lovely.
Speaker A:It's Nikka whiskey from Japan.
Speaker B:Delightful.
Speaker B:So are we ready?
Speaker A:Let's talk about Christmas.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So I love holidays.
Speaker A:I love Christmas, and I'm excited about all Christmas things.
Speaker A:And there we go.
Speaker A:So, yeah, so.
Speaker B:And I love Krampus.
Speaker B:So I'm very excited about.
Speaker B:Oh, Krampus sings.
Speaker B:So this is.
Speaker B:This is an episode for both of us.
Speaker B:She gets Christmas and I get Krampus.
Speaker A:Okay, there we go.
Speaker B:So this was season three, episode eight.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:So it's moving ahead of us a little bit, but we're gonna catch back up.
Speaker B:This was directed by J. Miller Tobin.
Speaker B:This was his second episode so far.
Speaker B:The first one we saw him in was when he directed Born Under A Bad side in Season two.
Speaker B:And this one is being written by Jeremy Carver, who we have talked about before.
Speaker B:So that is our intro to this, and we're ready to go to a Norman Rockwell Christmas in Seattle.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:One year ago at Christmas Eve, Grandpa shows up and is greeted by young Stevie and Grandpa.
Speaker A:And Stevie goes to bed.
Speaker A:Grandpa's dressing up like Santa, and he jingles some bells to wake up.
Speaker A:Stevie says Stevie will have a little Santa spotting.
Speaker A:And so Stevie spying on Grandpa, putting as dressed as Santa putting presents under the tree.
Speaker A:But then there's noises on the roof.
Speaker A:And Santa looks very concerned, AKA Grandpa.
Speaker A:And Stevie's just like, oh, it's right.
Speaker B:It's right there.
Speaker A:But Grandpa's like, the fuck is on the roof?
Speaker A:And sees, like, some, like, dusty stuff, you know, falling down the.
Speaker A:Down the chimney.
Speaker A:So he goes to kind of look in the fireplace and be like, what is.
Speaker A:Why is.
Speaker A:Why is the fireplace having, like, shit falling out of it?
Speaker A:This is a bad sign.
Speaker A:And he's looking, and all of a sudden, something yanks him up the chimney.
Speaker A:And then all of a sudden, you see a bloody boot fall down.
Speaker B:Do, do, do.
Speaker B:And at least for a while, the kid really thinks Santa went up the chimney.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Well, he's watching.
Speaker A:From his perspective, it just looks like Santa was leaving, like normal.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So, yeah, that was a funny.
Speaker A:It was a funny, though it was well thought out as far as the perspectives on that.
Speaker A:It was pretty fun.
Speaker A:So then we cut to Michigan.
Speaker A:Is it Yislanti?
Speaker B:I just have in Michigan.
Speaker A:The name of the city is Y P S I L A N T I.
Speaker A:So whatever that is.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:All right, so we see.
Speaker B:Yeah, you should have changed.
Speaker B:And she was another name.
Speaker A:So we cut to.
Speaker A:There's a young girl looking out of a window, and it pans out, and there's a woman who's obviously her mother talking to Dean, which.
Speaker A:So, you know, something bad's happened, obviously, because it's not a flirting conversation.
Speaker A:Dean's pretending to be, like, law enforcement.
Speaker A:So she's describing that her husband was decorating the tree alone, and her.
Speaker A:She heard noises and then he was just gone.
Speaker A:And now she's talking the FBI.
Speaker A:And so while she's talking to Dean, Sam comes out of the house and is like, oh, we'll be in touch.
Speaker A:And then she's like, well, just my question for you guys, if y' all are FBI agents when the law enforcement thinks they might.
Speaker A:He might have been my Husband might have been kidnapped.
Speaker A:Why has nobody called us?
Speaker A:Like, why is there a ransom?
Speaker A:It's been days.
Speaker A:Like, what the fuck?
Speaker A:And they're just like, oh, no, we're sorry.
Speaker A:And they're leaving.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker B:But you've got really great reindeer.
Speaker B:Those reindeer in her yard work stellar.
Speaker B:I like them.
Speaker A:There's excellent Christmas decorations in this whole fucking thing.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:I was having Christmas decor envy.
Speaker A:And then Sam tells Dean as they're leaving that he found a tooth in the fireplace.
Speaker A:And of course he took it.
Speaker B:He wants the tooth.
Speaker B:Only the tooth.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So we cut to the boys doing research.
Speaker A:And of course, what are they researching?
Speaker A:Liz?
Speaker B:All the Krampus.
Speaker A:All the Krampus.
Speaker B:All the evil Santas.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:There is a good Mary Poppins joke in here too that Dean does not get.
Speaker A:But Sam makes about chimney sweeps.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:Homicidal chimney sweeps.
Speaker B:But anyway, yeah, that Dick Van Dyke is the one who's killing everybody.
Speaker B:So Dean finds out that the husband is the second man to go missing.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And then he asked Sam for what his crazy idea is.
Speaker B:Evil Santa.
Speaker A:Anti.
Speaker A:Anti Clause.
Speaker B:Anti Claus.
Speaker A:Which I will say.
Speaker B:Did you check to see if that's.
Speaker B:If that's a metal band?
Speaker B:I have not looked it up.
Speaker B:I guarantee you one of these is a metal band.
Speaker A:I did not.
Speaker A:Also, I had never heard Anti Claus before.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's used kind of because it's a diet.
Speaker B:So it's a duality.
Speaker B:Right, Right.
Speaker B:So in most of these things, in most of the ones we're going to talk about, this isn't lore.
Speaker B:This is just me giving you fun facts about evil Santos.
Speaker B:Because they're great.
Speaker B:But really it was that you had St. Nicholas and then you had his.
Speaker B:His dual.
Speaker B:The other side.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So you had the good evil.
Speaker B:But it's not always the case.
Speaker B:So the ones that he's bringing up, he start with Belsnickel.
Speaker B:So Bell's nickel is also known as Pelt Snickel and Belsniggle.
Speaker B:I like Bell Snickle.
Speaker B:That's a good little Snickel.
Speaker B:And Bel Schnickle.
Speaker B:That's also.
Speaker B:So he.
Speaker B:And this is just straight from Wikipedia.
Speaker B:So he is a crotchety fur clad Christmas gift bringer in the folklore of the some region of southwest Germany.
Speaker B:And he's also prevalent in Pennsylvania Dutch communities.
Speaker B:So he's in the States.
Speaker B:And also Brazilian German commun.
Speaker B:From all those fun Nazis who fled to Brazil and brought their Bel Schnickel with them.
Speaker B:Good for them.
Speaker B:So he visits alongside.
Speaker B:He visits alone.
Speaker B:He doesn't go with Santa.
Speaker B:Difference between the other ones and he combines both the threatening and the benign aspects, while the other ones are divided between St Nicholas and his companion.
Speaker B:He is a man who wears furs and sometimes a mask with a long tongue.
Speaker B:He is typically very ragged and disheveled.
Speaker B:He wears torn, tattered, and dirty clothes, and he carries a switch in his hand with which to beat naughty children.
Speaker B:But he also has pockets of cakes, candies, and nuts for the good ones.
Speaker A:But if he's dirty, do you want those out of his nasty pockets?
Speaker B:I mean, his cake, I'm just.
Speaker A:Is it packaged?
Speaker B:You could, like, eat around?
Speaker B:Like, you would cut off the outside and get to the middle part of the cake, and that would still be fine.
Speaker A:I'm just saying, like, some, like.
Speaker A:Some, like, gnarly pocket lint from this disheveled fucking Santa with, like, like, embedded in a cake.
Speaker A:So gross.
Speaker A:Or like, what sticks?
Speaker B:Like little hairs, Like a little.
Speaker A:Yeah, so like, with, like, fuzzy pocket lid.
Speaker A:Like, like a fucking fuzzy candy cane from being in this guy's pocket.
Speaker B:It's just like my piece of fruit.
Speaker B:This is where fruitcake came from.
Speaker B:This is why, like, this is how he's evil.
Speaker B:Yeah, he just, like, had, like, cake in there and candies just got embedded in it, and he was like, enjoy my fruit cake.
Speaker B:Holy shit.
Speaker B:I wonder if that's where it came from.
Speaker B:Oh, that would be awful.
Speaker B:All right, so that's Balshnickel or Belsnigs or whatever you want to call them.
Speaker B:All right, so Krampus.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is one that most people have.
Speaker B:Heard of is the moment.
Speaker B:Because people know of who has gained a lot of popularity these days.
Speaker B:You can buy 8,000 Krampus figures on the Kill Star or Sourpuss or wherever you.
Speaker B:And I'm sure on Amazon and Etsy as well.
Speaker B:But okay, so Krampus.
Speaker B:And if I was at my house, I could show you my.
Speaker B:The Krampus that I crafted a couple of stuff seasons ago.
Speaker B:That badass.
Speaker B:I really like that one.
Speaker B:Okay, so he is a hairy, half goat, half demon.
Speaker B:He has one hoof and one foot.
Speaker B:His hair is usually brown or black.
Speaker B:His hooves are cloven, and he has a long paint.
Speaker B:Long pointed tongue which will roll out of his fanged mouth.
Speaker B:He carries chains, and the reason for that, they think is to symbolize the binding of the devil by the Christian church.
Speaker B:Who knew?
Speaker B:But he thrashes the chains for dramatic effect because, yeah, I mean, if I had chains, like, I'd be like, I would too.
Speaker B:Why would I be shaking Them and sometimes they have bells on.
Speaker B:So maybe he's just like an asshole.
Speaker B:Like walking through like you're trying to.
Speaker A:Sleep, shake all these things, jingling chains and wearing bells.
Speaker A:Fucking dick.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Like he's an asshole.
Speaker B:So more pagan origins are the bundles of birch branches that he carries with him and that he uses as a swap the naughty children with.
Speaker B:Sometimes he appears with a sack or a basket strapped to his back and that's to carry off the evil children for drowning, eating or transport to hell.
Speaker B:There is a very good meme running around this season of Krampus with some like, it's actually not children.
Speaker B:They look like adults in a sack.
Speaker B:And the one of them like is so happy and he's just like, Steve will never be, you know, Steve will never be nice again because he's really enjoying like being in the sack.
Speaker B:So the feast of St. Nicholas is celebrated on December 6th and preceding that.
Speaker B:So we just miss this.
Speaker B:On Sunday is Krampus night or Krampus night.
Speaker B:And so that's when he comes in the streets and he, you know, swats you or carries off the naughty children.
Speaker B:So there's lots of celebrations around the world for that, particularly mostly in Europe though.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:And the last one that he talked about was, holy shit, I did not know about this one.
Speaker B:Okay, so Black Pete, which just by saying that name you're like, huh, yeah, maybe, maybe something's going wrong here.
Speaker B:So Black Pete is also known as Schwarta Piet.
Speaker B:And some anti racism activists are saying, thinking we should probably start celebrating this.
Speaker B:Okay, so as the story goes is in, in, in Holland it's Sinterklaus, not Nicholas, but Sinterklaus.
Speaker B:He, he gets naughty children.
Speaker B:And Schwartz is a dark skinned figure who follows Sinterklaas around on his trips.
Speaker B:He helps him wrap up presents and get things done.
Speaker B:But he also punishes children who have misbehaved.
Speaker B:So like Santa is like too good to like, he just makes his friend Pete do it.
Speaker B:Which is kind of shitty.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:He's also said to, if he counters naughty children, if he has an empty bag of toys, he'll kidnap them and take them away too.
Speaker B:I don't know the word.
Speaker B:So the reason why people are saying, hey, maybe we should stop celebrating this is that many Dutch people dress up as Black Pete, which means they celebrate the holiday by donning a curly wig, gold earrings, big red lips and black faced.
Speaker B:It is, it looks real bad.
Speaker B:It's, it's not a good look.
Speaker B:Holland.
Speaker B:I'm just saying, like, you should probably Stop.
Speaker B:I get it.
Speaker B:I get.
Speaker B:I get your culture, but it's.
Speaker B:It's not okay.
Speaker B:You should.
Speaker B:You should just stop doing this and go.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So anyways, those are the three they talk about.
Speaker B:We'll get to some more later.
Speaker B:But obviously Propos is my favorite.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:All right, so Samson Shady's brother who's punishing the witch.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And Dean's comment is, santa can't have a brother because there is no Santa, basically.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, yeah, you told me.
Speaker A:And Sam's not bummed about this.
Speaker A:So I think we're going to get.
Speaker A:We're going to lead in shortly to some Christmas background.
Speaker A:But they figured out that both of these victims from this from in Michigan had visited the same place before they.
Speaker A:Before they were vanished.
Speaker A:So they brothers go to the most depressing Santa's village ever.
Speaker B:I want to get drunk in this village so bad.
Speaker B:Like, that's all I might say.
Speaker B:My Christmas would be complete.
Speaker B:It's so awful and amazing.
Speaker B:Elf school, like, just looks like a place where, like, they have indentured serpentine.
Speaker B:Everybody looks ripped.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, all the staff looks fucking miserable and.
Speaker A:Or high as fuck.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So while they're walking into this, though, Dean's like, maybe we should do a Christmas.
Speaker A:You know, we get the tree and get Boston Market.
Speaker B:Aw, go Boston Market.
Speaker A:And you're piecing together that Dean has much fonder memories than Sam because Sam's like, those weren't exactly happy memories of Christmas.
Speaker A:And so Dean calls Sam a Grinch.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:And then we cut, because you can see the zoom in on Sam as Sam's about to have a memory.
Speaker A: e, Nebraska on Christmas Eve,: Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Sam is 8 and Dean is 12.
Speaker A:Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so the brothers are in a motel room.
Speaker A:Sam's wrapping something for dad.
Speaker A:Dean's like, where'd you get the money for that?
Speaker A:You steal it?
Speaker A:And he's like, no, from Uncle Bobby.
Speaker A:Oh, Bobby.
Speaker A:Anyways, and they're just really concerned that dad's going to be back for.
Speaker A:Because it's Christmas Eve.
Speaker A:And Dean's just like, yeah, of course he is.
Speaker A:But Sam's a little concerned.
Speaker A:And Sam's just asking a lot of questions in general about what dad does and blah, blah, and tries to ask about mom.
Speaker A:And Dean gets pissed and leaves Sam alone.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:So we're kind of seeing this interesting dynamic of this is kind of like, you know, so Christmas, two boys alone in a motel room.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Good parent John, good parenting always.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:So we cut back to Santa's village and Sam's like, hey, according to the lore, the anti claws will limp and smell like sweets.
Speaker A:So Dean's like, oh, pimp Santa.
Speaker B:And now I really want pimp Santa to be a thing.
Speaker B:And I know it is a thing and I've seen it other places, but yeah, no, I just.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So now.
Speaker A:And that's.
Speaker A:And apparently the sweet smell is to draw children in, which is creepy.
Speaker A:So they're watching kids sit on this creepy ass Santa's lap and one of the elves offers to escort their kid and oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, no.
Speaker B:So the creepy ass Santa, like he says to the little boy, Santa has a special gift for you.
Speaker B:And I was like, whoa.
Speaker B:Like run away, child.
Speaker B:Like if you're sitting on a man's lap and he says that to you, you run and you tell an adult.
Speaker B:You go find them and you tell the adults like, no, Santa's bad Santa.
Speaker B:Bad Santa.
Speaker A:Oh well.
Speaker A:Dean makes a joke about Sam wanting to sit on Santa's lap to the elf and she kind of cringes.
Speaker A:She's like, no kids over 12.
Speaker A:And Sam's fucking unaware.
Speaker A:Ask says to her, we only came here to watch.
Speaker B:Yep, he's digging his.
Speaker B:He's digging his grave.
Speaker B:This is what he likes to do, right?
Speaker A:Such a dummy.
Speaker A:And elf says, ooh and walks away.
Speaker A:It's pretty funny.
Speaker A:And so the creepy Santa gets up and walking away from his little.
Speaker A:I won't call it a throne.
Speaker A:His perch.
Speaker A:Because that was a shitty Santa Cruz.
Speaker B:This chair.
Speaker B:This is his chair.
Speaker A:It was just a chair.
Speaker A:And he has a limp and he walks past them and he smells like sweets.
Speaker A:So they're like, well, fuck.
Speaker A:But they also said it could be ripple ripple.
Speaker A:So it could be.
Speaker A:Anyways, so they're staking.
Speaker A:They got to stake out the Santa.
Speaker B:Now another.
Speaker B:Another covert stakeout is about to happen.
Speaker A:Like they're in babies facing the trailer that the Santa lives in on the Santa's village property.
Speaker A:And they're like 20ft away from his trailer and like just sitting.
Speaker B:There's nobody else there.
Speaker B:Like there's no other cars.
Speaker B:They're just like, yeah, but also Santa's not.
Speaker B:Not into.
Speaker A:Santa ain't gonna notice they're sitting there.
Speaker A:And Dean asks why Sam hates Christmas and he's like.
Speaker A:And Sam's just like, I don't.
Speaker A:Didn't want to get into it.
Speaker A:But so we.
Speaker A:When one of the really funny he creepy Santa gets up and closes curtains and Dean calls him Saint Nicotine.
Speaker A:And I thought that was a very funny, clever line.
Speaker A:But they hear a scream noise from inside the trailer and they're like, oh, shit.
Speaker A:So now they got to go investigate.
Speaker A:And they go.
Speaker B:And the scream was someone going, oh my God.
Speaker B:There was a woman screaming.
Speaker B:Oh my God.
Speaker A:Was, was a woman screaming, oh my God.
Speaker A:So Sam's amused that Dean might have to blow away Santa.
Speaker A:And they break into the trailer, like, because they, yeah, they know he's a lot.
Speaker A:They know Santa's awake.
Speaker A:They just kick the fucking door in like, what the fuck?
Speaker A:And Santa's there, all right, watching porn with a fucking four foot bong and a half a bottle of whiskey,.
Speaker B:Ripping straight off a giant bog.
Speaker B:And I'm like, this is.
Speaker B:And also watching Santa porn.
Speaker B:And I'm just like, yeah, it's Christmas porn.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:I think that's.
Speaker B:That' the best touch is like, it's like, oh no, he's not only watching porn, he's watching Santa porn.
Speaker A:Santa porn, yeah.
Speaker B:So good.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker A:So they're like, oh.
Speaker A:So Dean starts very poorly singing Silent Night.
Speaker A:Very poorly.
Speaker B:And drunk Santa thinks it's awesome.
Speaker A:Yeah, he thinks it's amazing.
Speaker A:Sam jumps in and so they're basically pretending to be carolers.
Speaker A:Drunk Santa doesn't even think anything of it.
Speaker A:And they leave.
Speaker B:All right, now we're going to cut to another house that's full of the Christmas spirit.
Speaker B:It.
Speaker A:So there's sounds on the roof.
Speaker A:So a kid comes down and investigates and there's a.
Speaker A:The kid.
Speaker A:They don't really show it to the viewer, but the kid sees a Santa like feature figure and says, Santa, you're early.
Speaker A:And yeah, he walks past the kid goes through the entire house.
Speaker A:And this is like, you can see like the, like the edges of the, of the Santa suit.
Speaker A:And it's like the parts that would be floofy and white are drenched in fucking blue blood.
Speaker A:So yeah, use the kid goes through the house to a bedroom, up the stairs and you hear like this scream, like a thunk and a slash noise.
Speaker A:And then all of a sudden this, like what we can see of this Santa, this bloody Santa figure is dragging a person in a giant sack down the stairs.
Speaker B:We assume it's a person.
Speaker B:It's just as a giant.
Speaker B:There's a giant sack that's not full of toys and it's screaming, but it's just like his head's just bouncing down the stairs as he's going, la, la la.
Speaker B:But you know, I mean, Santa's not done yet because there's a plate full of cookies and like a Santa after my own heart.
Speaker B:He's like well shit, like I'm not going to let these cookies go.
Speaker B:So while the kid is staring at him, Santa just pops a cookie in his mouth.
Speaker B:Also this reminded me that SantaCon is next week here and was very disappointed that I missed it.
Speaker B:And we were discussing like when like because you know it's scary, right?
Speaker B:But I also kind of like there had like this magical hour like I think between like 11pm at midnight.
Speaker B:Like just where all the Santa's are really drunk and not all rapey and like trying to like like commit felonies but like for like 11 to midnight for like an hour would probably be just the best Santa watching ever.
Speaker B:But then you have to leave.
Speaker B:So anyhow, okay, so Santa's taking his dinner home.
Speaker B:Yeah, he did a pickup off a doordash.
Speaker B:So yeah.
Speaker A:So we cut back.
Speaker A:So it's the next day at this house and Sam and Dean are there talking to the woman and it's like so Santa took dad up the chimney.
Speaker A:She's like look, I didn't see the attacker.
Speaker A:I saw my husband get dragged from the bed.
Speaker A:I got knocked out by the attacker and that's it.
Speaker A:And then we just want to know where he is.
Speaker A:And Sam observes that there is a very specific wreath over the fireplace and asks where she got it and because he remembers that the Walshes, which was the other house that they've been investigating, had the same wreath.
Speaker B:Bum bum bum.
Speaker A:So back to the motel for research and Sam's talking to Bobby who tells them apparently that they're morons because it's not the anti clause.
Speaker B:He's got a few clues and one of them is the Meadow sweep.
Speaker B:And Sam says that this is probably the most powerful plant in pagan lore and it was used for human sacrifice.
Speaker B:It was kind of like a chum for their gods.
Speaker B:Gods were drawn to it and they stopped by and snack on whatever was the nearest human.
Speaker B:Didn't do a ton of digging into it, but off of some witchy herbs I'll link that.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:So Meadow sweet is used in magic and witchcraft for love spells and divination.
Speaker B:The scent is uplifting and brings peace and happiness.
Speaker B:It is related to Venus and the heart chakra and is a gentle heart opener and is useful for removing psychological barriers.
Speaker B:It may even be helpful in sexual trauma work but also really just use as aspirin.
Speaker B:Like that's that I know like today like you can still use it as like a headache relieving type of herb.
Speaker A:Like a blood thinner?
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker B:I guess so.
Speaker B:I guess so.
Speaker B:I don't know what makes sense.
Speaker A:Of blood thinner and ibuprofens are like anti inflammatories.
Speaker A:I was just curious.
Speaker A:That's okay.
Speaker B:I don't know, it just helps.
Speaker A:Good questions.
Speaker A:All right, good to know.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker A:So but it's not necessarily God based.
Speaker B:No, it's not necessarily.
Speaker B:I didn't see anywhere that said it was chum but you know, I didn't go digging that far into it.
Speaker B:But you can buy some on ebay or Etsy, they sell it there and it's not that expensive and you can buy your own.
Speaker A:Sam made it sound like it was very expensive.
Speaker B:He was very not.
Speaker B:No, it was like you can get a bag of it for like a dollar.
Speaker B:Like it's like really not inexpensive herb.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:So whatever.
Speaker B:Blow things out of proportion.
Speaker A:God never does that.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So then like as he's explaining the Sam Philstein and on the scary truth that oh my God, all these Christmas or Christmas are based on pagan traditions.
Speaker A:As someone that as someone who personally has some love of holidays, deep love of holidays and is consider myself a non practicing religious person, I fucking know that this is all like pagan symbolism.
Speaker A:Like come on, they tell you this.
Speaker B:Shit in elementary school.
Speaker B:Like it's not, you know, this is not rocket science.
Speaker B:I guess maybe you didn't go to the school where they did that, but so what they bring up though is that it's Hold Hold Nikar, God of the winter solstice and that when you sacrifice it to him you're going to get mild weather like they're having now.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:Right, because it's not snowing and it's not snowing in Michigan in fucking December, which is a big deal.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So as I have, I have coworkers who are there, it's very much snowing in Michigan right now.
Speaker B:So I couldn't like most of the things I found were references to this episode which thanks for, you know, all your great research people.
Speaker B:But sometimes you fuck up my algorithm.
Speaker B:So anyways, but this I wanted to quote from this one because I love where this comes from.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:This comes from the Psychedelic Secrets of Santa Claus by Dana Larson in Cannabis culture magazine.
Speaker A:All right then.
Speaker B:So most religious historians agree that St. Nicholas did not actually exist as a real person and and was instead a Christianized version of earlier pagan gods.
Speaker B:His legends are mainly created out of stories about the Teutonic God called Holdnikar known as Poseidon to the Greeks.
Speaker B:This Powerful sea God was known to gallop through the sky during the winter solstice, granting boons to his worshipers below.
Speaker B:When the Catholic church created the character of St. Nicholas, they took his name from Nicar and gave him Poseidon's title of the sailor.
Speaker B:There are thousands of churches named in St. Nicholas honor, most of which are converted to.
Speaker B:Converted from temples to Poseidon and Hold Nickar.
Speaker B:Bullshit.
Speaker B:Sorry, that.
Speaker B:That's complete.
Speaker B:That is just fucking not true.
Speaker B:I don't, like, know how much you're smoking cannabis.
Speaker B:Like, look, I love this.
Speaker B:The idea that, yes, all these churches used to be temples to Poseidon.
Speaker B:But no, no, he was probably with Santa ripping off that bong.
Speaker B:And they're just like, man, you know what?
Speaker B:Like, this church used to be a temple to Poseidon.
Speaker B:And they're like, yeah.
Speaker B:Anyway, so old Snickers also became associated with Satan, AKA old Satanic.
Speaker B:So, all right, so that's.
Speaker B:That's Holds Nickar.
Speaker B:So who we will meet maybe sort of later.
Speaker B:So now we're gonna go on to them doing some things that are kind of great.
Speaker B:You know the other one of our favorite questions about the show is this homophobic?
Speaker A:Yeah, I was like, oh.
Speaker A:I was like, I don't.
Speaker A:Interesting take.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:So they go to the craft store, which I'm sure Liz was really excited when she saw them go to the store at first, which is obviously set up for Christmas decor because it's a craft store in fucking December.
Speaker A:That's what they do.
Speaker A:And they're definitely giving off the vibe that they may be a couple.
Speaker A:Definitely teasing that vibe to the guy working at the store.
Speaker A:So basically they described this wreath that they had seen at the Wall street.
Speaker A:And he's like, oh, I'm all he tries at first.
Speaker A:He's like, oh, I have a calorie.
Speaker B:How does Sam describe it?
Speaker B:He said it was yummy.
Speaker B:He didn't say it was yummy.
Speaker A:So the man said that he is all out of them after he kind of played like he didn't know at first.
Speaker A:And it's pointed out that they are made from meadow sweet.
Speaker A:And apparently a local lady made them and just gave them to the store owner to.
Speaker A:To do whatever we want with for the holidays.
Speaker A:And of course, he sold the wreaths that he got for free.
Speaker B:Like you do because it's Christmas and people pay a butt wood for this crap.
Speaker B:I like him.
Speaker B:I want to go to his craft store.
Speaker B:I would shop there all the time and we would just talk shit about people.
Speaker B:So we do.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker B:So we're gonna go back to the motel.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:Apparently, like, they're like, they're guessing that these wreaths full of Meadows suite had to cost at least a couple hundred dollars to.
Speaker A:To make.
Speaker A:And so the person, whoever's making them is suspicious.
Speaker A:Which does not jive with your research, Liz.
Speaker A:But that's okay.
Speaker A:So Dean's reminiscing about dad stealing a wreath from a liquor store.
Speaker A:And Sam a beer reef.
Speaker A:A beer reef.
Speaker A:It was beer wreath is beer can wreath.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And Sam's just like, really, really trying to figure out why Dean wants to do Christmas.
Speaker A:And so Dean asked him.
Speaker A:He's like, were your childhood memories that traumatic?
Speaker A:And really.
Speaker A:And he's like, this is his.
Speaker A:This is my last year.
Speaker A:And Sam finally kind of comes around to.
Speaker A:That's why I can't.
Speaker A:I can't pretend everything's okay when I know next Christmas you'll be dead.
Speaker A:I drew a sad face.
Speaker B:It was very sad.
Speaker B:And I think, you know, I think that makes.
Speaker B:I mean, it makes a lot of sense for both of them.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And we're getting some good feelings out of them.
Speaker A:We are getting some good feelings out of them.
Speaker A:So we get another memory scene from our good old Sam about the same Christmas that we were visiting before.
Speaker A:And so Dean had ran out and left Sam by himself.
Speaker A:And he comes back to the motel and has a bag of like, fast food snacks for them and busts out with, I know why you have a gun under your pillow.
Speaker A:And I'm like, oh, this is questionable.
Speaker A:Why does this child have a gun under his pillow?
Speaker A:But anyways.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, and I know why.
Speaker A:I know why.
Speaker A:We lay salt down.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, no, you don't.
Speaker A:Sam pulls out dad's journal.
Speaker A:So Sam.
Speaker A:Sam.
Speaker A:Sam's been doing his own research again.
Speaker B:It started early, you know.
Speaker A:And so he asks if.
Speaker A:Asked Dean if monsters are real.
Speaker A:And so Dean basically make mix Sam promise not to tell dad that he knows this, but that calls dad a superhero.
Speaker A:He fights monsters, and almost everything is real except for Santa.
Speaker A:And Sam's just worried about monsters getting him or dad because they got monsters, Mom.
Speaker A:And Dean just insists, no, they're fine.
Speaker A:Sam's just crying, but Dean just insists dad will be there for Christmas.
Speaker B:So that's it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But no, I think this is a really good insight.
Speaker B:It's sad.
Speaker B:Sam crying himself to sleep is awful.
Speaker B:These two young actors are fucking fabulous though.
Speaker B:I think, like, even up to this point, like, it just.
Speaker B:They're just doing a really great job they are believable as Sam and Dean.
Speaker B:Like, they both have, like, they're so.
Speaker B:They're so good personalities.
Speaker A:Personality, like actors attributes are there.
Speaker A:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:So now we're gonna.
Speaker B:We're gonna pivot to the house that Christmas vomited on.
Speaker A:It's fucking amazing.
Speaker A:I want this exterior decor anyways.
Speaker A:And so this is the Kerrigan house and it is very well decorated.
Speaker A:So Dean says to Sam, though, can't you just feel the evil pagan vibe?
Speaker B:Which is actually, I'm pretty sure what people says when they say when they.
Speaker A:Walk to my house, only they're not being sarcastic.
Speaker B:Yeah, no, they're really like, shit.
Speaker A:So they get to the door and the only thing I could think of to describe and maybe I just didn't have the words.
Speaker A:I. I just was like a.
Speaker A:Like a June Cleaver type vibe.
Speaker A:But I don't even know if that's accurate.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:But it was very, like, housewife vibes.
Speaker B:She's just adorable.
Speaker A:I mean, she is totally adorable, totally sweet, totally hospitable.
Speaker A:Answers the door.
Speaker A:They tell her they were admiring the wreaths that she made and asked.
Speaker A:And she just.
Speaker A:She likes to use the word fine.
Speaker A:Like, but not like, oh, that's fine, but something is fine is in high quality or very nice.
Speaker A:And there's this about both of these.
Speaker A:Her and her husband, who walks up at the end of this, which is really weird.
Speaker A:She just describes how a nice Meadow.
Speaker A:Meadow, sweet smells.
Speaker A:It's just a fine, fine.
Speaker B:It's fine.
Speaker B:It's fine.
Speaker B:And then her husband comes to the door.
Speaker B:Then Madge, we never learned the name of her husband.
Speaker B:He just goes by Mr. Kerrigan.
Speaker B:But, you know, he also looks like.
Speaker B:He looks like Ward Cleaver.
Speaker B:So you've got Warden and Jim, and he's got.
Speaker A:He's got a pipe.
Speaker B:He's got a pipe.
Speaker B:And he's also fucking adorable.
Speaker B:And clearly they're evil.
Speaker B:Like, you just can't look at this couple.
Speaker B:Like, who.
Speaker B:Like, who would do anything with this couple?
Speaker B:I'd be like, nope, nope.
Speaker B:Fucking evil.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They are not good.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:And he offers peanut brittle.
Speaker A:And he says fine a lot too.
Speaker A:It's all fine.
Speaker A:Wreath, fine, fine.
Speaker A:It's very weird.
Speaker A:Anyways, it was just a weird, like, writing choice.
Speaker A:I'm not saying it was a bad writing choice.
Speaker B:It was a good.
Speaker A:Probably a good writing choice.
Speaker A:I just thought it was very distinct.
Speaker A:To me, it stood out.
Speaker A:So anyways, we cut back to the brothers, and Dean is frantically making steaks.
Speaker A:Apparently out of Evergreen, because that's what you have to make them out of to kill them.
Speaker A:These guys.
Speaker A:And Sam pieces together that the Kerrigans lived in Seattle last year, where the two abductions happened there.
Speaker A:And that all the holly, like, stuff around their.
Speaker A:Their house was not actually holly.
Speaker A:It was vervain and mint, which he.
Speaker B:Calls serious pagan stuff.
Speaker A:Serious.
Speaker B:Like, my mojito is so fucking pagan.
Speaker B:Like, let me tell you, all the demons I summon every time.
Speaker B:Time I mix that rum with some muddle and some mint.
Speaker A:So pagany.
Speaker A:That pagany tang,.
Speaker B:That extra tang is paganism.
Speaker A:So anyways, we cut back to the brothers at the Kerrigan house.
Speaker A:And this is always, like, bizarre to me.
Speaker A:It's kind of like when they kicked in the door at the fucking Santa trailer even.
Speaker A:Like, they don't give a fuck.
Speaker A:Like, oh, they might be home, they might not.
Speaker A:Let's just pick this block and walk around in their house.
Speaker A:Fuck it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:This is how you get shot in Texas, in case you were wondering.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Don't.
Speaker B:Just don't do that.
Speaker B:Don't do that.
Speaker B:Don't come wandering in my house, please.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, I'm like, that's not a.
Speaker A:That's not a check who's there.
Speaker A:That's a boom.
Speaker A:Oh, that's who's there after I've.
Speaker A:Afterwards.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So weird choice.
Speaker B:Anyways, okay, so we walk in and we see their plastic covering the couch.
Speaker A:So clearly, obviously evil people if they have plastic covers on their sofa, definitely.
Speaker A:And it's like a very well decorated house.
Speaker A:And there's like some food sitting on the table.
Speaker A:And I'm like, I bake a lot, but you still cover your shit before you go to bed, bitch.
Speaker A:Anyways, it's annoying.
Speaker A:I was like, why are these, like, pies sitting on the table still?
Speaker A:So Sam finds the basement door.
Speaker A:Because obviously they have to go to the basement.
Speaker A:Because obviously that's where some fucked up shit is.
Speaker B:Because always.
Speaker B:Because that's the.
Speaker B:That's what basements are for.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And there's blood smears and bloody bones laying all over the place.
Speaker A:And a bloody Santa boots and a bloody sack and a bloody saw.
Speaker A:And then there's something in the sack and a Santa.
Speaker B:Don't look at the sack, Sam.
Speaker B:Don't look at the sack, Sam.
Speaker B:Why are you looking at the sack, Sam?
Speaker B:Like,.
Speaker A:And as soon as he touches it, it moves.
Speaker A:And I fucking jumped off the sofa, in case anybody was wondering.
Speaker A:And then all of a sudden, Madge is there and grabs him by the goddamn throat and picks him Up.
Speaker A:And she real strong.
Speaker B:She's strong.
Speaker B:Well, that's what I say.
Speaker B:You know, she is a God.
Speaker B:So maybe she doesn't need to cover up her sweets and her baked goods.
Speaker B:Maybe she just is like, la, la, la.
Speaker B:And then, like, they're just protected.
Speaker A:Lucky bitch.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And as she's holding Sam up by his throat, the husband knocks out Dean.
Speaker A:And Sam's flashlight kind of of like, glanced across both of their faces.
Speaker A:And they look like total ghoulish when the light hits them.
Speaker A:It was crazy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I got.
Speaker A:For me, like.
Speaker A:So it was.
Speaker A:It was a really good contrast.
Speaker A:Like, they're like, perfectly, perfectly quiffed.
Speaker B:Look.
Speaker A:Very polished.
Speaker B:Quaffed.
Speaker B:Quaffed.
Speaker B:Not quiffed.
Speaker B:Not quiffed.
Speaker A:I didn't say quiff, quaff.
Speaker B:You did.
Speaker B:You said quiffed.
Speaker B:They were psychobillies.
Speaker B:That's what they were.
Speaker B:They had their cliffs.
Speaker A:They were perfectly.
Speaker A:But they were very, like, polished.
Speaker A:And then, like, you see, like, this flashlight go across their faces.
Speaker A:And it's like their eyes are just black pits and their face is all, like, crinkly.
Speaker A:It's crazy.
Speaker A:And so she knocks Sam out.
Speaker A:That's what happens.
Speaker A:And they wake up tied to chairs in the, like, the kitchen area.
Speaker A:I started just calling them Mr. And Mrs. Because my notes were getting out of hand.
Speaker A:Now it's just easier.
Speaker A:And I think I've got Mr. And Mrs. God says in one spot.
Speaker B:Which is really weird.
Speaker A:I just realized that.
Speaker A:So anyways, basically, they know they're hunters.
Speaker A:So the Mr. And Mrs. Know that the brothers are hunters and that they're there to kill them.
Speaker A:And she's like, we used to take like 100 tributes a year, and now we only take like two or three.
Speaker A:And the husband's like, pipes in.
Speaker A:He's like, well, the Hardy boys here will make five.
Speaker A:So not helping.
Speaker A:Not helping.
Speaker A:Husband not helping.
Speaker B:But, I mean, that seems that I appreciate this justification.
Speaker B:Like, yeah, you know, I used to have, like, I killed hundreds of people.
Speaker B:Now I only killed like, three.
Speaker A:Like, big.
Speaker B:That's not bad.
Speaker B:She's cutting back.
Speaker B:You know, she can't go cold turkey.
Speaker B:Like, you know, there's no, like, you know, God sacrifice, nicotine patch.
Speaker A:So they've got to follow their rituals, though.
Speaker A:They can't just.
Speaker A:They can't just eat them up.
Speaker A:They've got to go through their rituals.
Speaker A:And apparently she lied about being out of Meadow suite because Sam tries to make like, oh, you're out of metal suite.
Speaker A:Can't do that stuff.
Speaker A:And she's like, nope, got some right Here she was lied to them about being out.
Speaker A:And she puts that on her neck.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker B:Oh no, those are really pretty necklaces by the way.
Speaker B:I would wear that necklace.
Speaker B:Like it was pretty cool.
Speaker A:Little like neck like U shaped thing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And anyway, so now they've got to like do like a bloodletting.
Speaker A:And so the husband cut Sam to put blood in a bowl.
Speaker A:And sanitary.
Speaker A:Yeah, very unsanitary.
Speaker A:Dean calls him a son of a bitch and he comments how they used to be worse worshiped and that that Jesus character is the hot new thing in town.
Speaker A:Anyway, so.
Speaker A:And she, she goes on a rant about how basically they've been doing this for two millennia.
Speaker A:They assimilated, they got freaking mortgages, they played bridge and blah blah blah.
Speaker A:So they're trying to once again justify what they do.
Speaker A:And like hey, this is just, this is our COVID Leave us the fuck alone.
Speaker A:But obviously we can't let you go because you're hunters.
Speaker A:You're come back for us.
Speaker A:So we have to kill you.
Speaker A:And anyway, so she goes to do the bloodletting on Dean's arm and Dean calls her a bitch.
Speaker A:And she tells him that he needs to go to the swear jar and suggest that he say fudge whenever.
Speaker A:Like she does whenever she feels like cursing.
Speaker A:Which is also a fun reference probably to Christmas story.
Speaker A:Just saying.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, I see that.
Speaker A:Anyways, there you go.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So the man is now walking up to Sam with some real weird pliers.
Speaker A:And I'm like, oh no, no, I'm not happy.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't know what body part is going to be touched with these pliers.
Speaker A:But I know that it's going to upset me.
Speaker A:And it does.
Speaker B:Yep, a lot.
Speaker B:It's not good.
Speaker B:Now they rip out Sam's.
Speaker A:Well.
Speaker A:And as he's getting ready to rip out Sam's fingernail, which he does and makes me want to vomit as someone else who wear acrylic nails.
Speaker A:So anyway, if you listen and you wear acrylic nails, if you've broken one, it's like literally vomit inducing.
Speaker A:It fucking hurts.
Speaker A:Like it feels like your fingers being ripped off.
Speaker A:And I cannot fathom the pulling out of a fingernail like that.
Speaker B:Yeah, move on, move on, move on, move on.
Speaker A:But Dean says, Dean said it's funny during this she goes, the wife goes to do the bloodletting on say on Dean.
Speaker A:And Dean follows her advice, says if you fudging touch me again, I'll fudging kill you.
Speaker A:So now they're making extra unsanitary and mixing their blood together along with the fingernail and some other stuff in there.
Speaker A:It's fucking great.
Speaker A:Throw some herbs in there.
Speaker A:But they forgot they needed to get a tooth.
Speaker B:So they forget the tooth, the tooth.
Speaker B:And nothing.
Speaker A:Got the tooth.
Speaker A:So they go to get the.
Speaker A:They get the pliers and go over to Dean to get one of his fucking teeth.
Speaker A:And he tells Sam Merry Christmas.
Speaker A:And then suddenly there's a doorbell because Dean would not have looked good missing one of his teeth.
Speaker B:Probably not now.
Speaker B:So he's got the flyer stuck in his mouth.
Speaker B:Madhage goes to the door and someone's at the door with a fru.
Speaker B:Cake.
Speaker B:So clearly also evil fruitcake.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And this lady wants to go caroling and play bridge and blah, blah, blah, blah, and gives them a fruitcake.
Speaker A:And they finally get rid of her.
Speaker A:They go back to the dining area and bum, bum, bum.
Speaker A:The brothers are gone.
Speaker A:They escape from the chairs.
Speaker A:And they also.
Speaker B:But when they're walking to the dining room, they just smash the fruitcake.
Speaker A:Oh yeah.
Speaker A:They tell you just walked across it.
Speaker A:Like they didn't care.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's great.
Speaker B:Well, because that's what you should do with every fruitcake.
Speaker B:It's just like someone gets at you instead of set it on the floor and then you walk on it or just immediately throw it in the garbage disposal.
Speaker A:Like it's no fruitcake.
Speaker B:So no, that's an abomination.
Speaker B:Like it's.
Speaker B:Oh, God.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So the brothers utilize the architecture, the interior layout of these older homes to their benefit by.
Speaker A:Because all these older homes like this houses has a lot of small rooms with a lot of doors with like a kitchen that has like two doors to get into the kitchen.
Speaker A:Instead of being.
Speaker A:This is not an open floor plan, motherfuckers.
Speaker A:So they are able to close these gods into the kitchen briefly.
Speaker A:And since their stakes are not accessible to them anymore, that they cut from Evergreen because they're in the basement down, which is access through the kitchen, they decide they need take down the motherfucking Christmas tree.
Speaker B:It's good improvisation.
Speaker B:And they just knock it down and start making new stakes.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And then we get a fuck.
Speaker B:And then they.
Speaker B:The gods break through the door and we get a massive drag out fight.
Speaker B:And Madge is very upset.
Speaker B:You little thing.
Speaker B:I love that tree.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:She's not happy.
Speaker A:And her and Sam get into it and he fucking stakes her.
Speaker A:And while Mr. God is distracted, Dean stakes him.
Speaker B:And then they die together.
Speaker B:And it's kind of sad.
Speaker B:They've Been together for hundreds of years now.
Speaker A:Thousands.
Speaker B:Thousands, you know, so.
Speaker B:I mean, that's a long time to put up with somebody that sure love me in like here's he.
Speaker B:Imagine.
Speaker B:And Mr. Kerrigan, whoever the.
Speaker B:Your first name was.
Speaker A:According to the Internet, his name is Edward.
Speaker A:But you're right, they don't ever say it on the show.
Speaker B:No, in the transcript.
Speaker B:I looked in the Transcript.
Speaker B:It's just Mr. Kerrigan.
Speaker A:Weird.
Speaker A:IMDb said something different.
Speaker B:Oh, dare you IMDb you mind sack of.
Speaker B:You're just making things up.
Speaker A:Making things up for sure.
Speaker A:Probably, yeah.
Speaker A:So we cut back to the memory of a.
Speaker A:Have this.
Speaker A: This Christmas in: Speaker A:And it's snowing and Dean wakes Sam up and says, hey, dad was here.
Speaker A:Look what he left.
Speaker A:And there's presents.
Speaker A:So Sam's though.
Speaker A:Sam's kind of like, what the fuck?
Speaker A:Why didn't dad wait.
Speaker A:No, he didn't say what the fuck.
Speaker A:He's a child at this point.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:He's like, why didn't dad wake me up?
Speaker A:What the fudge right there.
Speaker A:Yeah, why didn't dad wake me up?
Speaker A:And he's like, oh, he tried.
Speaker A:He only tried.
Speaker A:So Dean tells Sam just to go dig into the present.
Speaker A:And it's a Barbie.
Speaker A:So you know that you make some crack about how dad probably thinks they.
Speaker B:Sapphire Barbie.
Speaker A:Sapphire Barbie.
Speaker A:And then the other presents, like the sparkly baton, which I had.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think I have to.
Speaker A:With the.
Speaker A:With the.
Speaker A:With the sparkles on the end.
Speaker B:Yeah, there were sparkles in the inside that were just like.
Speaker B:Like not sparkly.
Speaker B:It was just like.
Speaker B:Well, I think I had one that had like.
Speaker B:Like the liquid glitter.
Speaker A:Yeah, liquid glitter.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And then I'd be like, look at me, I'm a baton girl.
Speaker B:And then I would twirl it my two fingers and I'd be like, that's all I can do.
Speaker B:But then I would like try and do other things with it.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But yeah, I was very excited about baton twirling.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So obviously Sam knows that dad wasn't there.
Speaker A:He asked where Dean got the presents and Dean admits it was like from the house at the block, but didn't realize they were chicken presence.
Speaker A:So this is a weirdly like, sad but sweet scene in a lot of ways because it's kind of like that's fucked up.
Speaker A:You stole some kids Christmas and your fucking dad no showed on Christmas.
Speaker A:But Dean tried to do something sweet for his brother.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:So there's that.
Speaker B:And then Sam gives Dean the present he meant for John.
Speaker B:And it was an amulet.
Speaker B:And this is a story of how Dean got his amulet.
Speaker B:Amulet.
Speaker B:Oh, so the amulet that he wears till the end of season 15, maybe.
Speaker B:Spoiler.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:So, yeah, I think that that's.
Speaker B:I mean, it was really interesting tie into just the character itself and then also just kind of more of that dynamics of what Christmas was like for both of them.
Speaker B:And they are both really trying hard for each other.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:So, yes, that's gonna lead us to the present day or present then day Then day.
Speaker B:So we're gonna go back to the motel and have yourself a Merry Little Christmas is playing as Dean walks in.
Speaker A:And Sam has decorated the motel room all Christmassy and has eggnog.
Speaker A:And apparently the eggnog's real strong.
Speaker B:And was legit strong.
Speaker B:So I sent you a link and I'll post a link in the show notes as well.
Speaker B:So that was actually spiked.
Speaker B:E and Jared spiked it on Jensen as a joke.
Speaker B:And so then that face he made was because he didn't know they kept it in the shot.
Speaker B:So he did not know it was on there.
Speaker A:That's funny.
Speaker B:And then they continued to drink eggnog for the rest of the scene and were very drunk by the time they were done filming.
Speaker A:That's funny.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Dean asked Sam what made him change his mind about Christmas, obviously.
Speaker A:And anyway, and they decide to just exchange presents and everything is from like the local gas mart, which is pretty funny.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:So Dean gives Sam two skin mags and shaving cream.
Speaker A:And Sam gives Dean a candy bar and motor oil, AKA fuel for me and fuel for my baby.
Speaker B:Very nice.
Speaker B:But Diana, what are some of the other presents that they could have gotten you to other from Gasmart, Maybe not for the gas.
Speaker B:I mean, they had access to the Internet.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So I think it.
Speaker B:It's time for us to do a little segment we like to call Liz's Haunted Home Shopping.
Speaker B:And because it's Christmas, I wanted to think, you know, give you guys like, hey, May, you still need some ideas for the holidays.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And I was like, we're going to go through some price ranges.
Speaker B:All these things you can find in the lovely world of ebay.
Speaker B:So say like, you don't have a lot of money.
Speaker B:You want a garden bargain gift for somebody?
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Speaker B:And I present the whispers of the veil Worldwide Illuminati powers.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:This offering is for a joint personal spell casting and for the energies from the ritual to also be cast into a physical item.
Speaker B:We have many, many different handmade pendants, charms, maybe an amulet like Dean was wearing.
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Speaker B:That's a little.
Speaker B:You like, you know, maybe dad doesn't want to have a sex Adonis.
Speaker B:Okay, you're like, I don't know, like, what else can I get dad?
Speaker B:Like, you know, Dad's a reader, right?
Speaker B:So I think dad likes books.
Speaker B:So I'm going to get him this great book of shadows.
Speaker B:That's magic.
Speaker B:Extreme power.
Speaker B:Demon Jinn.
Speaker B:Satanic witchcraft spellbook.
Speaker B:And is there this coven's amazing leather bound book of shadows?
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Speaker B:No need to study, no need to recite.
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Speaker B:Simply putting your hand to the book and the pages absorb the literal infinite level of knowledge and power hidden inside it.
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Speaker B:So Diana, what does that tell you?
Speaker A:This book is a blank book.
Speaker B:It is a blank fucking book.
Speaker B:And if you want it, because you're just out to touch it.
Speaker B:If you touch it and like you're going to get all these powers, it'll only cost you $5,000 and $6 shipping.
Speaker A:That's fucking bullshit.
Speaker A:Charge you shipping after that.
Speaker B:Right, that's.
Speaker A:That's the racket.
Speaker B:All right, so what if you've got like a mom, right?
Speaker B:So you know, mom is like, maybe she's got some near sighted things or some other things and you want to donate to charity.
Speaker B:So then I would suggest Eurafis magical eyeglasses.
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Speaker B:So in Greek mythology, Theia, also called Eurefis, whatever her name is, I can't say.
Speaker B:White Shining is One of the 12 Titans, the children of the earth Goddess child of Gaia and Uranus.
Speaker B:She is the goddess of sight and by extension the goddess who endowed gold, silver and gems with their brilliance and intri.
Speaker B:This pair of glasses is enchanted and endowed with magical powers and has been worn once by Dr. Vay Wolf Hybrid, MBA, PhD Minister of Religion at the First Ominous church in Orange County, California.
Speaker B:And I see these glasses and I'm pretty sure I also saw them for sale at the Duane Reade up the street.
Speaker B:So this one will not ship.
Speaker B:It's only for local pickup.
Speaker B:So you have to be in Westminster, California to buy it.
Speaker B:And you can get it for the bargain price of $25,000.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:So we're like, you know what?
Speaker B:You know, it's not my mom.
Speaker B:I need to.
Speaker B:I've got, like, a geologist friend, right?
Speaker B:I kind of want to get.
Speaker B:I want to get him something.
Speaker B:So what if I got him a really fancy rock?
Speaker A:So how about fancy rocks are cool?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The true aport.
Speaker B:So, from Bell Rock, this is from the ad.
Speaker B:And Lorraine Warren Buffett.
Speaker B:So an aport is something that during, like, a seance, is left there as an object that, you know, a ghost or something.
Speaker B:Something drops by.
Speaker B: So in: Speaker B:This rock is an incredible piece of paraphernalia from this case.
Speaker B:So the couple, the family that was haunted, were terrified.
Speaker B:Terrorized for over six years by an unidentifiable entity.
Speaker B:Entity was bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker B:And then he had the ability to move objects from place to place.
Speaker B:And so this rock is a rare phenomenal object article.
Speaker B:It's true.
Speaker B:Classic airport.
Speaker B:An object that was not in the recipient's possession prior to manifestation.
Speaker B:So after the Moffitt family made the trek to Sedona, Arizona, seeking aid from paranormal experts in the city, Deborah Moffitt found the stone, once back at the residence, placed upon her luggage.
Speaker B:And the entity had left a message scribed in soap on the bathroom mirror that says, a gift for Debbie, a special rock from the top of the bell rock.
Speaker B:Unsure of the entity's true motives in bringing any sort of gift, as well as the consequences of rejection, the Moffat family stored the rock away with various other true apports the entity had brought into their residence.
Speaker B:This auction includes the gifted gifted rock and a copy of the associated documentation photograph that was taken soon after the haunting for perusal paranormal experts.
Speaker B:This does not ship worldwide, only to the United States.
Speaker B:And you can get that for the bargain price of $53,000.
Speaker B:So make a $50,000 for a rock.
Speaker A:I mean, what's.
Speaker A:What's interesting, though, I would argue, is that it's slightly more believable than the 25 cent, you know, spells, because, I mean, at least they valued it.
Speaker B:They valued it appropriately at $50,000.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't know.
Speaker A:I mean, like, the other bitch thinks you deserve to pay $6 in shipping after you buy a $5,000 blank book.
Speaker A:So, I mean, like, this one, I'm like, $50,000, okay?
Speaker A:If it's supposed to be that special of a goddamn damn rock.
Speaker A:I mean, at least, like, at least price it.
Speaker A:So I believe it.
Speaker A:If I would believe that.
Speaker A:You know what I mean?
Speaker A:Like the.
Speaker A:Your.
Speaker A:Your 25 year, you know, whatever.
Speaker A:Your 6 cent plus an $11 bid.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker A:You're 17 cents for a spell I'm less likely to trust.
Speaker A:That sounds sketchy.
Speaker A:Your $50,000 rock, not sketchy.
Speaker A:$0.17 Magic spell.
Speaker A:Totally sketchy.
Speaker A:Like my logic, but you know what I mean.
Speaker B:This is how you end up with expensive shoes by the but you get.
Speaker A:What I'm saying though, right?
Speaker A:I mean the point.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:And so last but not least.
Speaker B:So what if you are Sam and you're like I lost this amulet.
Speaker B:Or you're like maybe I can give this amulet to Johnny to get Dean another amulet.
Speaker B:So he's like I'm going to go find the finest amulet on ebay.
Speaker B:And he's like oh, antique rare top amulet in Thailand of Asia.
Speaker B:Buddha statue pendant 200 years old.
Speaker B:This amulet equals contains many kinds of the sacred good magic holy masses and value metals main material equals value.
Speaker B:I don't know what value metals are.
Speaker B:It doesn't really.
Speaker B:Except that they're value medals.
Speaker B:So it is based off it was made by Som Jie to the ranking.
Speaker B:The ranking from the Raking Temple of Thailand.
Speaker B:He had been a very famous monk of Thailand about 200 years ago.
Speaker B:Until until now I didn't write that sentence.
Speaker B:I don't really understand if he was like famous 200 years ago but now he's not famous.
Speaker A:But is he 200 years old?
Speaker A:I mean like what the fuck are they trying to say?
Speaker B:He was the builder and creator of himself with hands handmade and he prayed the good magic spells by himself for own ritual can protect you from ghost daemon devil a devil thou should see.
Speaker A:Devil.
Speaker B:Vampire.
Speaker A:Oh you silly little devil.
Speaker B:Vampires, zombies and evil danger comma black magic help you to success everything and prosperity and lucky and rich and wealthy.
Speaker B:If past ritual to pray the good magic spells by the very famous monk.
Speaker B:It's very beautiful and perfect reality of life.
Speaker B:In today's world there are many the evil mystery and the black magic and the danger that we can't see and can't forecast.
Speaker B:So if you have enough money to buy the good magic talisman amulet you should buy it to for protect you.
Speaker B:Don't hesitate to buy until you encounter with those things the evil mystery and black magic and the danger by without the protection thing the good magic talisman amulet for you then you will regret that at that time you should buy it the good magic talisman amulet and he does ship world worldwide and you can get this for you know what you've got lying around in your house.
Speaker B:$5,800,000 Plus $1,000 shipping.
Speaker A:That's just.
Speaker A:See, that's fucking petty.
Speaker A:Your thousand dollar shipping.
Speaker A:That's fucked up, man.
Speaker A:It makes me angry.
Speaker A:Like, if I spend 50 bucks, I get fucking free shipping on some shitty makeup on the Internet.
Speaker B:Like, maybe you need a promo code.
Speaker B:Like, do I get a promo code?
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like, what's the fucking promo code for your stupid amulet?
Speaker A:See, $5 million for a fake, fake magic amulet.
Speaker A:Then you don't get to my fucking thousand dollar shipping.
Speaker B:Well, but maybe like after you get the amulet, then you never have to pay shipping again.
Speaker B:Maybe it's like an Amazon prime thing and like.
Speaker B:Like you just rub it and like you get free shipping everywhere you go.
Speaker A:Amulet, prime.
Speaker A:Oh, do they hand deliver it for a thousand dollars?
Speaker A:Like you can buy a fucking flight.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think you also buy.
Speaker B:I think you get a country.
Speaker B:You may actually get Thailand with us.
Speaker A:You get Thailand.
Speaker A:It's not really buying the amulet and you get Thailand.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Actually, maybe it's like a small village in Thailand.
Speaker B:You get a floating boat in the river.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:So that is the end of Liz's Home Haunted Shopping Network.
Speaker B:May you guys find all the gifts for your family and friends for whatever holiday you choose or not choose to stay.
Speaker B:Celebrate.
Speaker A:Yay.
Speaker B:All right, so we're gonna go back.
Speaker B:And the brothers touchingly are saying, merry Christmas, bro.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:And so they watch the game.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They cheers.
Speaker B:And Sam looks like he's gonna say something, but then he's just like.
Speaker B:He's like, do you just want to watch the game?
Speaker B:And then they smile and they watch the game and it starts snowing because the God said.
Speaker A:Yeah, because they killed the them.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker B:And I'd be like, can we bring him back?
Speaker B:Like, I really want to shuffle the sidewalk like this seems like a pain in the ass.
Speaker A:Pretty much, yeah.
Speaker A:I did make a couple of notes on our cast from this episode.
Speaker A:Funny enough, Mr. Kerrigan, who was played by Spencer Garrett, was actually been in like a ton of stuff.
Speaker A:I thought he looked vaguely familiar, but he's been in a ton of stuff.
Speaker A:But a couple of notes that I thought were, like, interesting, specifically were.
Speaker A:He was Alan Kincaid in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Speaker A:He was Ted Coldwater in the Magicians.
Speaker A:He was Senator Lethenridge in thank youk for Smoking, which is a movie I adore.
Speaker A:And he was a White House aide in Air Force One.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker A:And then Marilyn Gann, who played Madge Kerrigan she's been in a bunch of things also.
Speaker A:But the one that stood out that I thought I would share was in the original miniseries, that of it, she was Mrs. Winter Barger.
Speaker A:So she was in one of the main characters.
Speaker A:Not main, but she was a character.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Feature.
Speaker A:And then the first.
Speaker A:The grandpa that we see in the first scene that dies.
Speaker A:Well, yeah, like, the first one we see get taken.
Speaker A:He has been in a shit ton of stuff, too.
Speaker A:And, like, there's a lot of, like, overlap of things they're all in together and stuff.
Speaker A:It's kind of interesting, but he was in a bunch of several episodes of Outer Limits.
Speaker A:He was on a few episodes of X.
Speaker A:He was Preston in First Blood, and he was the judge in 3,000 miles to Graceland.
Speaker A:No one, like, major tied to a lot of things we're, like, super into.
Speaker A:But enough fun references that I thought I would share.
Speaker B:Those are good.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Speaker B:So this was a very supernatural Christmas.
Speaker B:Oh, and it also started off with some really great title cards.
Speaker B:And hopefully Diana will be able to legally download those and share them with you for your enjoyment.
Speaker B:I mean, not illegally.
Speaker B:I mean, with all fair use rights and of course.
Speaker A:Yeah, of course.
Speaker A:Always.
Speaker A:So, yeah.
Speaker A:So that's all I got.
Speaker A:It was a very.
Speaker A:It was a fun Christmas episode.
Speaker A:I mean, it was sad watching their childhood stuff, but overall the episode was really sad.
Speaker A:Or.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:Really fun.
Speaker A:I liked the episode.
Speaker A:It was fun.
Speaker B:But those parts, I think they did.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think they did a very good job of having some sad exposition and also some moving of the storyline forward to a little bit, too.
Speaker B:This is a different take on the Dean.
Speaker B:You also kind of see this is like, after the last one, Dean's getting the acceptance that this is probably going to be his last year of Earth.
Speaker B:Earth.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But so he's moved on to is, I guess, the acceptance stage of grief.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And trying to experience things instead.
Speaker A:And I think that was important.
Speaker A:Part of this, too, is that they've had so much contention between them.
Speaker A:And it's always been about fighting and butting heads about it all.
Speaker A:This was more about them kind of remembering how much they depend on each other, which is bad in some ways, but also really important about how they always look out for each other.
Speaker A:Kind of a thing I thought was kind of an important reminder for both of them.
Speaker A:Does that make sense?
Speaker B:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker A:But also, I just like Christmas shit.
Speaker A:So I was really excited.
Speaker B:I like campus.
Speaker B:I was very excited.
Speaker B:All right, well, now I'm gonna go, like, lie and rub my tummy and wish I hadn't drank eggnog.
Speaker B:All right, well, cheers.
Speaker B:Cheers, jerk.
Speaker A:Cheers.
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