3:11 Mystery Spot
Heat of the moment... it's Supernatural Season 3, Episode 11 "Mystery Spot." Hear the wonders of some of America's Greatest Mystery Spots and the terrifying tale of the Chipalope. Learn the horrific truth behind Pig in a Poke.
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The Mystery Spot
We reviewed mystery spots from the Mental Floss article, “Magnetic Hills, Gravity Roads, and Mystery Spots” by Joel Arnold, who defined a mystery house as “rooms or houses built on slants of at least 20 degrees, engineered so that a person standing in the space orients themselves to the slanted room - and not to the ground.” Additionally, the mystery spots have visual cues designed to disorient, such as placing trees and windows at angles.
The top spot on Arnold’s list was the Santa Cruz Mystery Spot, a gravitational anomaly. This mystery spot is a 150-foot circle where the laws of physics and gravity are put to the test! Discovered in 1939 by a group of surveyors, the site includes demonstrations to show how wacky the gravity is, including being able to lean over the floor at an acute angle without falling, watching a pool ball roll uphill, or seeing how the heights of people change based on where they are standing, even though the ground seems level. According to a blogger named Josh, you can “climb tables, hang from the wall, and walk up the stairs, all of these things designed to mess with your mind and to provide some fun Instagram pictures.”
Also making the list was the Cosmos Mystery Area in Rapid City, South Dakota, which was discovered by two college boys when they were looking for a place to build a cabin. Inside the Cosmos Mystery Area, you can walk up a wall, see water flow uphill, be pulled sideways while hanging, and be amazed at the height thing. All the mystery spots think that it is really cool.
The Confusion Hill Mystery Spot in Piercy California, is the home of the rare chipalope, half chipmunk/half antelope. According to their website, a magical accident combined two happy male and female antelope and chipmunk couples. I am not sure if that means in a polyamorous way or what. The male chipalope was named Chester the First, shied away from humans after realizing how special he was, although he can be seen on “dewy morns.”
Travel north to Gold Hill, Oregon to witness the Oregon Vortex, which is a “spherical field of force, half above the ground and half below the ground.” The local Native Americans called the area the Forbidden Ground. In the 1920s, geologist and mining engineer John Listster began experimenting with the vortex, and he opened the space to the public in the 1930s. This mystery spot once again brags about the taller/shorter thing, and also have balls that roll uphill. Private tours are $250 and include up to 20 admissions.
According to Science ABC, mystery houses are all illusions in which the buildings are built on an inclination which is not obvious to the human eye. That doesn’t explain gravity or magnetic hills, in which objects seem to move uphill outside of a structure, but those could also be optical illusions. Or maybe, gravity is just acting weird.
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"California Through My Lens: Mystery Spot Santa Cruz." California Through My Lens. https://californiathroughmylens.com/mystery-spot-santa-cruz/.
"The Chipalope Tale." Confusion Hill. http://www.confusionhill.com/confusionhill-chipalopetale.htm.
"3.11 Mystery Spot." Supernatural Wiki. http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/3.11_Mystery_Spot.
"Gift Shop." The Mystery Spot. https://www.mysteryspot.com/gift-shop.
"Guided Tour Info." Mystery Hole. http://www.mysteryhole.com/guidedtourinfo.html.
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Transcript
On this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we're going to talk about season three, episode 11 and the Sexy legend.
Speaker B:Of the chippeloupe and the truth behind Pig in a Poke.
Speaker B:Let's do this.
Speaker A:Happy New Year.
Speaker B:Happy New Year.
Speaker A:Welcome to this week's episode of Devil's Trap podcast, we're going to talk about season three, episode 11, mystery spot.
Speaker A:I'm Diana.
Speaker B:I'm Liz.
Speaker B:We're here.
Speaker A:We're here.
Speaker B:We have survived half of the holiday season.
Speaker A:Yes, Christmas has been a success.
Speaker A:Overall, I think we have passed yule.
Speaker B:We have passed winter solstice.
Speaker B:We have passed Christmas next.
Speaker B:We've passed Boxing Day.
Speaker A:We did.
Speaker B:We did pass Boxing Day.
Speaker B:Which Lush had 50% off all their Christmas shit.
Speaker B:So hopefully like.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was good.
Speaker B:I spent so much money on sales this week.
Speaker A:I have not.
Speaker A:It's been weird and I want to.
Speaker A:So I do have one shopping excursion I'm gonna take myself on or I might find fun stuff in the stockyards.
Speaker B:We'll see.
Speaker A:But yeah, we're counting down to the new year.
Speaker A:I think that I won't get philosophical.
Speaker A: ybody thought that going into: Speaker A:And we were all fucking wrong.
Speaker A:But that's okay.
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:I actually thought they weren't going to be.
Speaker B:I thought it was still going to and I was proven right.
Speaker A:But we're still here and it's going to be all right.
Speaker A:And maybe 22 will be better.
Speaker A:And if not, 23.
Speaker B:If not.
Speaker A:I have drugs and booze, so whatever that too.
Speaker A:But yeah.
Speaker A:So how have you been?
Speaker A:What are you up to?
Speaker B:I have been fine.
Speaker B:My work is technically on hiatus for the holidays, so have been trying to catch up on sleep.
Speaker B:That's been really good.
Speaker B:I don't know if I'm fucking up my sleep schedule real bad because I'm sleeping until like 9:30 every day, which is just my natural body.
Speaker B:That's my body wants to wake up and so I think work should just like let me.
Speaker B:I mean, I guess probably I could.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I'm working on Pacific coast time from now on, but that's just when I like to wake up.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker B:It's been great.
Speaker B:So we've been doing that.
Speaker B:And next is the planned reorganization of the house, which is.
Speaker B:That's half the reason why I wanted to rest up because I'm attacking.
Speaker B:Like I've got for my other podcast.
Speaker B:I have all new equipment I need to set up which is actually hilarious because it matches all Diana's podcast equipment, so we'll sound exactly the same.
Speaker B:But so now I have like twice as much gear and on top of all my other crafting and stuff.
Speaker B:So it's time to do a full on house, like reorgan, including the Closet of Shame.
Speaker B:The closet of shame is going to get taken care of.
Speaker B:And it's always scary to open up that door and be like, what the fuck did I decide to throw in here?
Speaker B:Because usually that closet, it's the hall linen closet, I just open it up, shove things in, and then shove the door closed really fast as a cat.
Speaker B:Can't get lost in there because I think it goes Narnia.
Speaker B:I mean, Narnia or maybe Fillery.
Speaker B:I'm not sure yet.
Speaker B:But you know, one of those.
Speaker B:One of those places you can get to through my closet.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So being mainly domestic, we went out and did some ghost hunting on Sunday in the town of Bartlett.
Speaker B:And that was fascinating, really, just from a historical standpoint.
Speaker B:I wish there was more information.
Speaker B:I started scrolling through.
Speaker B:They digitized.
Speaker B: h of Austin, was built in the: Speaker B:And so for those of you who haven't been to a lot of Texas, like small towns, we all have town squares, right?
Speaker B:So my town that I live in has one.
Speaker B:Like the town I went to college in had one.
Speaker B:And so pretty much it was, you know, there was a courthouse.
Speaker B:Here is your bank, here is your hanging tree.
Speaker B:You know, like all those things are in the middle of town.
Speaker B:So in this town of Bartlett, I think somebody bought up that entire square and they're revamping the whole thing.
Speaker B:So they have like, basically gutted like half of the buildings there.
Speaker B:So we were able to go into all of these different buildings, including the bank where they shot the Newton boys and some other bank robbery film.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:The other one was, I just remember Newton Boys because McConaughey and I wanted the ghost of Matthew McConaughey to be there, even though he's alive.
Speaker B:Like, I just want like a ghost to be like, all right, all right, all right.
Speaker B:And I'd be like, cool ghost.
Speaker B:But this town is apparently full of ghost Native Americans.
Speaker B:Like people have seen all sorts of, like those people, just apparitions of them everywhere.
Speaker B:There's also ghost cats that they have seen, which may explain why I woke up on.
Speaker B:On Sunday morning or Monday morning with a strange scratch across my face that was ever done.
Speaker B:Almost done.
Speaker B:Ever Done by my cat myself or the ghost cat.
Speaker B:I think a ghost cat followed me home.
Speaker B:Ani needed a friend, so she has one.
Speaker B:I checked my ovulus and my EMF reader with me as I went through emf.
Speaker B:I got some hits on nothing, like too crazy.
Speaker B:Did get some things on the ovilus, like geek.
Speaker B:I don't know why ghosts like to taunt me, but they called me a geek or maybe they were just calling somebody else a geek.
Speaker B:A lot of times when the guy that I was with entered the room, my ovulus would slide up and say threat.
Speaker B:So I don't know what that means for him, but apparently they don't like him.
Speaker B:But I like him fine.
Speaker B:But the ghost don't.
Speaker B:So I don't know.
Speaker B:It was a good time.
Speaker B:Lots of people was done by the Austin Ghost Society.
Speaker A:Sorry guys.
Speaker B:Austin haunted.
Speaker B:I know the people who do this also lead ghost hunts through Austin proper.
Speaker B:So you can go to like the dress school and other places like that to go meet their ghosties.
Speaker B:So it was an interesting way to spend an evening and also just really cool to be in.
Speaker B:I just like old Texas buildings, so it was nice just to go, you know, kind of wander around place to place and just kind of, you know, get the vibe of the town.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Sometimes just the history of the buildings is really cool.
Speaker A:Even if you don't get to see ghosties.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so the people who are leading the hunt, they're still doing a lot.
Speaker B:There's doing a lot of investigations into it.
Speaker B:But I was like kind of reading through some of the newspapers that have been scanned in because they had.
Speaker B:That town had their own newspaper Till like the 60s, I think.
Speaker B:But they digitized a lot of them.
Speaker B:And of course I found the one.
Speaker B:There was like the first Klan meeting in Bartlett was held.
Speaker B: can tell you that happened in: Speaker B:There was a clan meeting that was held at somebody's farm and thousands of people came.
Speaker B:And that was just in the paper is like, hey, Ku Klux Klan's meeting.
Speaker B:They met Gay Texas.
Speaker B:So some of our history kind of sucks.
Speaker B:But you know, at the same time it's still part of our history and it's interesting to know that that shit happened.
Speaker B:So anyways, that's the town of Bartlett.
Speaker B:And beyond that, I don't know if I've really.
Speaker B:I feel like I've done other things, but that's the main thing I've done this week.
Speaker A:What about you?
Speaker A:You did the holiday stuff, but yeah, that's something.
Speaker A:So yeah, no, we've been doing lots of holiday things and.
Speaker A:And yeah, that's about it.
Speaker A:I mean, like, lots of holiday celebrations.
Speaker A:Seeing lots of family and friends.
Speaker A:Of family.
Speaker A:And then my brother is in town, which is super exciting.
Speaker A:He is.
Speaker A:He's in the Navy and his and his new wife are visiting us, which is super exciting.
Speaker A:So, yeah, that's.
Speaker A:That's really all we got going on.
Speaker A:Enjoying both of us having some time off as well and doing, like, family activities.
Speaker A:And that's about it.
Speaker A:Here.
Speaker A:Got my.
Speaker A:My fancy sparkly New Year's Eve nails done and ready for, you know, a little bit of downtime and a little bit of fun time before I have to, like, get back to real life after the holidays.
Speaker A:And we are officially now, as we just discussed before we started our show today, going to be at the Supernatural convention, Put Bonpie Creation Entertainment in Plano, Texas, just outside of Dallas at the end of January.
Speaker A:So hopefully we'll see some of you there.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Come find us.
Speaker B:We will be the ones in the obnoxious matching velour tracksuits.
Speaker B:You'll find us.
Speaker B:We're pretty.
Speaker B:We stand out.
Speaker B:Also, just look for the really tall women and the really short women next to each other and.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's usually it.
Speaker A:Tall, tall chick, short chick.
Speaker A:And yeah, there you go.
Speaker B:That's hot chicks.
Speaker B:Two really hot.
Speaker A:Yeah, very hot.
Speaker B:You see some babes and you're just like, oh, clearly, yeah, the hottest women at the convention.
Speaker B:That'll be us.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And by that I just mean I sweat a lot.
Speaker B:So what do you.
Speaker A:What are you.
Speaker B:What are you drinking today?
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I'm super lame right now because we're gonna go eat Mexican food in a little while.
Speaker A:And so I'm drinking some Pellegrino.
Speaker A:I'm just trying to hydrate, man.
Speaker A:There's been a lot of.
Speaker A:A lot of heavy meals and a lot of alcohol in my system like, for the last, like five days straight.
Speaker B:So that is very much understandable.
Speaker B:I am drinking because it's four o' clock now, so day drinking is fine.
Speaker B:So I am drinking something from a Texas brewery, Brazos Valley.
Speaker B:And it's called Seven Spanish Angels.
Speaker B:And it's a cold brew coffee ale.
Speaker B:It's delicious.
Speaker B:Also, there is a. I don't.
Speaker B:Texas native woman.
Speaker B:I'm not sure of which affiliation she is.
Speaker B:Which.
Speaker B:She's holding a shotgun on the front of the can and so.
Speaker B:Cool.
Speaker B:I'm showing you, Diana.
Speaker B:If you look up, you can see the.
Speaker A:I see it.
Speaker A:I see the seven Spanish Angels.
Speaker A:With the shotgun.
Speaker A:I like it.
Speaker B:She also looks like one of the Katrina dolls I have that is holding a shotgun and a baby.
Speaker A:Let me see it again.
Speaker A:Let me see it again.
Speaker A:Show me.
Speaker A:She looks like a Katrina doll.
Speaker A:If they may have been, like, sketched by one of the artists on King of the Hill.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, it's.
Speaker B:Her eyes are a little wonky, but I'm not gonna judge the artistry on this.
Speaker B:You guys did a great job.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No, I'm just saying it reminded me of a King of the Hill sketch.
Speaker A:That's not in a bad way.
Speaker B:They said we use chocolate brown and biscuit malts with light sea hops, then blend with Independence Cold Brew, Pecan coffee.
Speaker B:And Independence Cold Brew is a really good coffee too.
Speaker B:So recommend that cold brew.
Speaker A:I like that it says good time and beer on it too.
Speaker B:That was a good time in beer.
Speaker B:And then if I finish that, I do have a Fort Worth beer on standby because I just don't want to run out.
Speaker A:Is it Martin House Brewing, by chance?
Speaker B:It's a Martin House Brewing and it is a cream rich ale, and it's got some cookies on the front of it.
Speaker B:So I'm actually pretty excited about that.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:Well, here we go.
Speaker A:Let's talk about the Mystery Spot.
Speaker A:Liz has been very excited about this episode.
Speaker B:So this is a great episode.
Speaker A:It was a very fun episode.
Speaker B:So this is Mystery Spot.
Speaker B:This is episode 11 of season three.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:So this was directed by Kim Manners.
Speaker B:The teleplay was by Jeremy Carver.
Speaker B:But also the story had Emily McLaughlin as a second credit on it.
Speaker B:And she's according to Supernatural Wiki that she had been with with supernatural since 1.01 pilot as a writer's production assistant, showrunners assistant, a writer's assistant since the beginning beginning of season two, and a story editor since the beginning of season three.
Speaker B: didn't have any credits after: Speaker B:So what happened to Emily?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:Where did Emily go?
Speaker B:I tried doing some, like, did some Osints on her.
Speaker B:I couldn't find anything.
Speaker B:But I do want to give.
Speaker B:There's also obviously everybody loves the people who do this show.
Speaker B:Love this episode too.
Speaker B:I want to do a quick story about this episode from the Supernatural Official Companion.
Speaker B:So Padalecki and Ackles had a different kind of unreal experience on the set of Mystery Spot when the crew pranked them.
Speaker B:Jared and Jensen are both From Texas and I'm from Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Speaker B:Noted production designer Jerry Wanick.
Speaker B:There is a big Cowboys versus Packers football game.
Speaker B:So while they were shooting, I put packers memorabilia all over the trailers, including life sized Brett Favre posters.
Speaker B:I even got the caterer in on and how to make Wisconsin bratwurst for lunch.
Speaker B:The boys were shooting at this auto place.
Speaker B:They were inside and I had the AD ask them some stupid questions just to distract them.
Speaker B:When Kim Manners yelled action.
Speaker B:Everybody on the crew put on a Brett Favre mask and a Packer's helmet.
Speaker B:So as Jared and Jensen came out the door, they saw 75 Brett Favre staring at them.
Speaker B:The boys had a great sense of humor, so they with it and they had fun that night.
Speaker B:I watched the game and Jensen's trailer and Dallas killed Green Bay.
Speaker B:So the boys got their revenge.
Speaker B:The other thing I thought was really funny was that Richard Spate my baby, he said so he was.
Speaker B:It was like their trailers are side by side and I couldn't remember who was airing the game.
Speaker B:So I go to Jared's trailer and knock.
Speaker B:I heard some sort of noise which I thought was coming, so I opened the door and took two, two steps in.
Speaker B:And instead of seeing Jared and Jensen, I see two flipping giant dogs.
Speaker B:I don't know what bre.
Speaker B:But clearly they can bite my face off.
Speaker B:I look at them and they look at me and then they perk up.
Speaker B:I soil myself and run like a bat out of hell, closing the door right as they leap off the couch toward me.
Speaker B:So the boys attempt to welcome me into their circle and watch the football game.
Speaker B:I almost got killed by breaking and entering into Jared's trailer.
Speaker B:I was so embarrassed.
Speaker B:I've never told Jared this story, so it'll be news to him.
Speaker A:That's hilarious.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Lots of fun things about this episode we can get into.
Speaker B:So let's just start off.
Speaker B:And one of the things too, I think was also interesting and we can talk about this at the end and was this was the final show that was.
Speaker B:It was shot the last issue right before the writers strike.
Speaker B:So we're going to see this obviously the season shorter.
Speaker B:And I've mentioned that before because of that, but they filmed it after the the one that comes next.
Speaker B:And so Padalecki thought that he thought this could actually be like a series or a season finale for the show because, like everybody stopped working.
Speaker B:It's like, well, this could be it.
Speaker B:Like, they didn't know what was going to happen or who was going to come back.
Speaker B:So that was interesting.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:So if you are not a fan of Heat of the Moment by Asia, this episode will be very upsetting to you.
Speaker A:Just in case anybody hadn't already figured that out.
Speaker A:But yeah.
Speaker A:So this episode kicks off with Dean waking Sam up to Heat of the Moment by Asia on the radio.
Speaker A:And Dean is tying his boots and he is rocking out lip syncing and.
Speaker A:And Sam is not happy about the song.
Speaker A:And he said if he hears the song again, he's gonna kill himself.
Speaker A:Which is poor, poor Sam on that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think this is awesome.
Speaker B:Where we get.
Speaker B:I think this is the first time we see Jensen's patented arm, like, finger.
Speaker A:Pointing, finger pointing, pointing, lip sync.
Speaker A:It's the rock and roll point and lip sync.
Speaker A:And then we got the guys in the bathroom together.
Speaker A:While one is.
Speaker A:Dean is very obnoxiously gargling and Sam is very distressed with the nasty ass toothpaste tube.
Speaker A:And the only reason I'm going to note some of these details, and I'm not going to, obviously, if you're listening, you probably watch the fucking episode.
Speaker A:But I'm going to detail them because I think that, you know, we see them come back through this episode and.
Speaker B:That's what I'm talking about now, you know, and then I'm not going to.
Speaker A:Detail them every fucking time because then we'd be here for, you know, four hours.
Speaker B:We're still going to be here for four hours because we got a lot of shit to talk about.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So the bathroom is fucking amazing.
Speaker A:There's fucking flamingos everywhere.
Speaker B:Yeah, there are.
Speaker A:And it's amazing.
Speaker A:And I want it.
Speaker A:I want this bathroom.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:We can make it happen.
Speaker B:We'll get you a flamingo bathroom to go with your flamingos that are outside.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So anyway, so the guys go to breakfast and there's like, you see a series of events and these reoccur throughout the episode.
Speaker A:You've got an older gentleman paying to leave.
Speaker A:You've got the waitress forcing a guy who looks like he potentially could be homeless, but he's just trying to like loiter at the, at the, at the diner bar, pay for coffee.
Speaker A:So they continue to stay.
Speaker A:You get.
Speaker A:Dean gets excited about ordering a pig and a poke, which is their special today on Tuesdays, and acknowledging they didn't really know what the fuck it is.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker B:So I'm gonna, I'm gonna stop.
Speaker B:What's a pig in a poke?
Speaker B:You know?
Speaker A:No, I didn't look it up.
Speaker A:I figured you would.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, of course I did.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But it's Also on the Supernatural Wiki.
Speaker B:So they said pick it up is a sausage dish usually served for breakfast.
Speaker B:It also refers to an expression in which buying a pig in a poke is to buy something sight unseen.
Speaker B:It usually refers to devious salesman who offered to sell a customer a pig, but instead gave them a cat in a box or a bag.
Speaker B:I don't know why a cat or a box.
Speaker B:Basically, it's a pancake wrapped around a sausage.
Speaker B:So that is a pig and a poke.
Speaker B:It is just a piece of sausage with a pancake wrapped around it.
Speaker B:Which also sounds pretty good right now,.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:And we'll also laugh throughout this.
Speaker B:So he gets to pick in the poke at this with a side of bacon.
Speaker A:Bacon.
Speaker B:So, yeah.
Speaker B:And then later, also, it gets even funnier, but in some legacy.
Speaker B:So you're getting pork sausage with a side of.
Speaker B:Of pork belly.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:I'm not.
Speaker B:I'm not mad at it.
Speaker A:Not, not mad at it.
Speaker A:I'm judging a little, but I may have learned similar things before.
Speaker A:It's okay.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And also on the placemats in the diner, which.
Speaker B:I don't know if you saw them, there's an image of a groundhog on it.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's a children's coloring contest to win a bicycle.
Speaker B:And everyone in the Supernatural art department colored their own ground hog, and they have a collage of them on the wall.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:That's awesome.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So they start talking about why they're in this town, and it's.
Speaker A:They're in this.
Speaker A:They're on a small job while they're still.
Speaker A:While they're waiting to track down Bella because they haven't been able to find her after she sold a fucking cult from the last episode.
Speaker A:And they're there because Professor Dexter Hasselbeck vanished while he was passing through town.
Speaker A:But the last place that they knew he was trying to go check out was called the Broward County Mystery Spot.
Speaker A:It's a.
Speaker A:Where the laws of physics have no meaning.
Speaker A:And as their food's getting delivered, the waitress drops their hot sauce and it breaks all over the floor.
Speaker A:And it looked kind of like Cholula, but it wasn't Cholula.
Speaker A:It was, like, shaped like it, and it had the wooden lid, but I couldn't tell what it was.
Speaker B:Somebody faking Cholula.
Speaker A:Like, fake cholula.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So, yeah.
Speaker A:So we cut to them leaving breakfast, and they're talking about this mystery spot being a tourist trap.
Speaker A:Dean's just like, these fucking places he just hate.
Speaker A:But as they're walking, you See, like, there's a couple of distinct things that occur in this episode or in this scene.
Speaker A:As they're walking by, there's a dog tied up to a bike rack and it's barking at them.
Speaker A:And then this blonde chick bumps into Dean and they say, excuse me.
Speaker A:And there's these two guys that cannot get this fucking desk through this doorway.
Speaker A:Two movers trying to load this giant desk through a very small doorway.
Speaker A:Unsuccessfully.
Speaker A:So while they're.
Speaker A:Dean and Sam continue to talk while they're walking here, Sam's like, look, there are weird locations.
Speaker A:There's a Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker A:Places where magnetic fields yields bend space and time and blah, blah.
Speaker A:So Dean makes a good X Files crack about all this too.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:And Sam says, you know, actually says lore.
Speaker B:So he's like.
Speaker A:And they said lore a couple times this episode.
Speaker A:Like the last one, I caught it too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we're gonna talk about our own lore because let's talk about mystery spots.
Speaker A:Why not?
Speaker B:Because they're talking about it.
Speaker A:Let's talk about it.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:So thankfully, and in the Supernatural Companion, they list about, like.
Speaker B:I don't know, there's like 20 different mystery spots.
Speaker B:They list.
Speaker B:I'm going mainly off of a list from Mental Floss that I'm working off of.
Speaker B:And they had a list.
Speaker B:Joel Arnold put together 10 magnetic hills, gravity roads and mystery spots.
Speaker B:And I'm just going to talk about the mystery spots, magnetic hills and gravity roads we can get to on another day.
Speaker B:Because I really want to delve into the gravity hill that is the haunted railroad tracks in San Antonio.
Speaker B:So I'm pocketing those for later.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:So according to Mr. Arnold, mystery houses are essentially rooms or houses that are built on slants of at least 20 degrees engineered so that a person standing in the space orients themselves to the slanted room and not to the ground.
Speaker B:And then visual cues countered to help convince you and disorient you.
Speaker B:So trees and windows we placed on a slant.
Speaker B:And they'll demonstrate the phenomenon by, like, having balls roll up the floor or chairs on the halfway of the wall.
Speaker A:That was like, one of my favorite things to go to at Six Flags.
Speaker A:There was a crazy house like that.
Speaker B:Yeah, everyone loves them.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we're gonna start off with number their number one, which is probably the one that people most know about, which is the Santa Cruz Mystery Spot.
Speaker B:And this is located in Santa Cruz, California.
Speaker B:Shocking, you know.
Speaker B:So this.
Speaker B:They are open 365 days a year.
Speaker B:So parking is five DOL vehicle.
Speaker B:And you can pay with cash or check.
Speaker B:That is why you.
Speaker B:So yeah, the check things just goes to trick me on this.
Speaker B:And then like if you choose to buy tickets and pay for parking at the door, they only accept cash or check.
Speaker B:Credit cards are not accepted for these purchases.
Speaker B:However, there is an ATM in the gift shop, so you know that.
Speaker B:So they lead two to five tours per hour.
Speaker B:And tickets can be purchased, some up to two hours in advance.
Speaker B:So at the door there are $8 that is payable by cash or check.
Speaker B:Check only.
Speaker B:However, they usually do sell out during the holidays and on weekends.
Speaker B:So they find tickets in advance.
Speaker B:And their tours start at really stupid times.
Speaker B:AKA tomorrow for us.
Speaker B: an take a tour that starts at: Speaker A:That's really annoying.
Speaker B:That's really annoying.
Speaker B:Yeah, I get it.
Speaker B:You're quirky.
Speaker B:They do offer free admission to active military duty.
Speaker B:Presenting current military ID ticket purchase.
Speaker B:If you purchase advance tickets, you can present your ID to get your discount.
Speaker B:But it is not a plan of family members or retired personnel.
Speaker B:So sorry, Diana, you've got to pay $8.
Speaker B:Also, alcoholic beverages of any kind are not allowed.
Speaker B:A mystery spot property.
Speaker B:So we will never be going there.
Speaker B:So this mystery spot is a gravitational anomaly located in the redwood forest just outside of Santa Cruz, California.
Speaker B:It's a circular area of effect around 150ft in diameter.
Speaker B:And within the mystery spot, you will be stunned as your perceptions of the laws of physics and gravity are questioned.
Speaker B:But don't take our word for it.
Speaker B:Come decide for yourself.
Speaker B: ystery spot was discovered in: Speaker B:And according to their website, some speculate that cones of metal were secretly brought here and buried in our Earth as guided systems for their spacecraft.
Speaker B:Oh yeah, aliens.
Speaker B:So some think that in fact the spacecraft itself is buried deep within the ground.
Speaker B:Other theories include carbon dioxide permeating from the earth Earth, a hole in the ozone layer, a magma vortex, the highest dielectric biocosmic radiation known anywhere in the world, and radioesthesia.
Speaker B:Whatever the cause is, it remains a mystery.
Speaker B:We visit the mystery spot.
Speaker B:You can see the cabin leaning downhill.
Speaker B:When you walk inside, there are six different demonstrations that show the gravitational anomaly.
Speaker B:You can lean over at an acute angle to the floor without falling.
Speaker B:A pool ball seemingly rolls uphil being on a level surface.
Speaker B:And you and your friend can stand in one location and be one height, but switch completely and change sizes.
Speaker B:It's just like being on level ground.
Speaker B:And you'll see this in a lot of the mystery spots.
Speaker B:So they'll have, like, people standing up and, like, they'll put, like, wooden planks on your head so, like, you could see.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like if you and I were standing, like, I could.
Speaker B:It could appear, but I was taller than you.
Speaker A:Ooh, that'd be fun.
Speaker B:That is fun.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:And according to.
Speaker B:According to this blogger, Josh, he didn't have a last name, so just Josh.
Speaker B:The highlight of the trip is walking into the main house, where the 17 degree angle starts to play with the brain.
Speaker B:You can climb tables, hang from the wall, and walk up the stairs.
Speaker B:All of these things designed to mess with your mind.
Speaker B:And they do provide some fun Instagram pictures.
Speaker B:They also have a snack shack where you can get burgers, nachos, a full vegetarian menu, and also a side of brown rice for a dollar.
Speaker B:Now, I don't understand what the fuck the brown rice is for.
Speaker B:I guess because it's California.
Speaker A:Like, what are you doing with that?
Speaker A:Like, I don't.
Speaker B:Like, I want a side of brown rice with my vegan hot dog.
Speaker A:Like, I.
Speaker B:But why.
Speaker B:Why do you want brown rice?
Speaker A:I like rice.
Speaker A:It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker B:I love brown rice, but I like nachos and brown rice.
Speaker B:Like, I just did.
Speaker B:You need your.
Speaker B:You need your carbs.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:But you do get a free bumper sticker when you leave.
Speaker B:So that's probably why you see more of those, which is a really good advertising thing for them.
Speaker B:So good on you.
Speaker B:All right, the second One is the St. Ignati Mystery Spot, and that is located in St. Ignati, Michigan, the Upper Peninsula, which I also kind of.
Speaker B:So when they talk about the Bermuda Triangle in this episode in Michigan.
Speaker B:We have our own Bermuda Triangle up in Michigan.
Speaker B:So maybe one day we can talk about that.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B: this place was founded in the: Speaker B:It was voted Michigan's number one unusual attraction by the readers of Michigan Living magazine, put out by aaa so you will experience optical contradictions and physical sensations that are hard to believe.
Speaker B:These phenomenal happenings can be photographed.
Speaker B:It's a barrel of fun for the entire family.
Speaker B:See for yourself why Most of our 2 million visitors return year after year.
Speaker B:We have ample car and trailer parking and clean restrooms.
Speaker B:Besides the guided.
Speaker A:Yep, there's a lot to be said for that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Besides the guided tours, the world famous mystery spot, we also have two great zip lines, a human maz and a custom designed 18 hole putt putt golf course.
Speaker B:I don't understand why the human is in front of the maze.
Speaker B:Like, what other kind of maze?
Speaker B:Like, is it a rat maze?
Speaker B:Like, what the fuck?
Speaker B:Like, yeah, I mean, but human maze also sounds like it's made of humans.
Speaker A:Like, what is it like the human centipede, Is that the human maze or.
Speaker B:Just like a bunch of people?
Speaker B:Like, we're like, go left.
Speaker B:No, you don't go right.
Speaker B:But they do have a unique gift shop offering souvenirs found nowhere else in the world.
Speaker B:Don't forget, get to check out our brand new Mystery Spot souvenir photo booth just outside the gift shop.
Speaker B:So you can take it guided toward the mystery spot for $7 if you're 5 to 11.
Speaker B:And if you're 12 and up, it's $9.
Speaker B:And you can ask about their zipline voucher worth $5 off the original price.
Speaker B:Under kids under 5 are free.
Speaker B:And you can go to the Human maze for only $2.
Speaker B:If you just want to go to the human maze, that is just $2.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Number three is the cosmos Mystery area.
Speaker B:And this is located in Rapid City, South Dakota.
Speaker B:I have been in this area.
Speaker B:There is not shit to do there.
Speaker B:So I understand why people are going to this place.
Speaker B: It was discovered in: Speaker B:They decided to set up shop at an old house where they felt the most off balance.
Speaker B:And at the gift shop, you can buy the famous crooked Cosmo shot glass.
Speaker B:This one.
Speaker B:Once you enter the Cosmo Mystery area, all laws of nature and physics appear to be suspended.
Speaker B:Water flows uphill, Tall people appeal shorter than their smaller friends, and what appears to be measured level is not.
Speaker B:Proceed further into the Mystery house and you will a chance to walk up a wall, be mysteriously pulled sideways when hanging perfectly straight from a rafter, and experience some other awesome physical forces and demonstrations that can only be seen at the Cosmos Mystery area or the 9,000 other mystery spots in America.
Speaker B:So this one, it's free.
Speaker B:Under five children, six bucks.
Speaker B:Adults you got to pay $12.
Speaker B:So this is one of the pricier ones.
Speaker A:They're proud of their.
Speaker A:They're proud of their mystery.
Speaker B:They're proud of their mystery spot.
Speaker B:Number four is Confusion Hill.
Speaker B:This is located.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, I feel like I've been there.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think I just drank a lot.
Speaker B:And that was how I ended up on Confusion Hill.
Speaker B:Okay, so Confusion Hill is in Piercy, California.
Speaker B: was built by George Hudson in: Speaker B:George was intrigued with the idea of finding his Own special place similar to the Oregon Vortex and the Santa Cruz Mystery Spot.
Speaker B:He believed that there were more than just a few places in nature that defied its own laws.
Speaker B:And shockingly, once you're in the gravity house, you will experience optical contradictions and odd physical sensations that are truly confusing and in capital letters confusing.
Speaker B:But it's only $5 for adults to.
Speaker B:Yeah, 4 to 12 is $4.
Speaker B:Under 3, 3 years old and under are free.
Speaker B:I don't know what happens if you're between three and four.
Speaker B:But this is also the home of the rare.
Speaker A:They're not allowed.
Speaker B:They're not allowed.
Speaker B:This is the home of the rare chip A loop.
Speaker B:It's half chipmunk, half antelope.
Speaker B:And apparently this came to be.
Speaker B:Yes, there was a magical accident that combined two happy male and female antelope and chipmunk couples.
Speaker B:Chester the first, as the male was called, gained self awareness and realizing how rare he is, decides to hide away from humans view.
Speaker B:Except perhaps undoing mourns at Confusion Hill.
Speaker B:So we can go see.
Speaker B:So also it sounds like they were swingers.
Speaker B:So we had, we had a chipmunk couple and an antelope couple and they switched partners and that is how the Chippewa look was made.
Speaker A:I, I don't want to like put this mental picture in anybody else's head.
Speaker B:But of a chip of chipmunk.
Speaker A:There's some logistical challenges going on here, but you know that the antelope could not have fucked the chipmunk.
Speaker B:I mean the chipmunk could have backed itself up and it just would have been really painful.
Speaker B:I mean maybe that's why they only talk about Chester.
Speaker B:Maybe she died.
Speaker B:She was impaled by antelope pain and.
Speaker A:Never paid death by antelope pain.
Speaker A:Oh my God.
Speaker A:All right.
Speaker A:So yeah.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:And so two more.
Speaker B:So we've got mystery hole.
Speaker A:Good timing.
Speaker B:So Mystery hole and I love this one.
Speaker B:This is in Anstead, West Virginia.
Speaker A:Okay, there we go.
Speaker B:It features a gorilla statue on its roof, a Volkswagen beetle sticking out of a wall and a series of slanted underground.
Speaker B:Unfortunately it is closed for the season.
Speaker B:So if you're going to go, you've got to break it.
Speaker B:Not condoning breaking entering, but if you're Sam and Dean, you do that all the time.
Speaker B:So according to their website, this mystery whole thing seems to affect different people in different ways depending on whether they cling to the new style education or stray to the plain old chs common horse sense method.
Speaker B:We have noticed that the highly educated folks do ask more questions than the lesser educated ones do.
Speaker A:This is the weirdest, like selling like pitch for a place I've ever heard,.
Speaker B:But it's also West Virginia.
Speaker A:So this is how I interpret colleges in West Virginia.
Speaker B:Yeah, these crazy liberals with their, with their high fin angle educations are going to ask a lot of questions.
Speaker B:Those of you who are from the common horse sense land, you know, you didn't go no fancy college, you're going to ask less questions.
Speaker A:It's just.
Speaker B:All right then.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So this one's $8 of 12 and up $7 if you're 11 and under.
Speaker B:You have to be accompanied by an adult.
Speaker B:No infants allowed on the tour.
Speaker B:So no babies.
Speaker B:That's selling point.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:On their rule tour rule.
Speaker B:SO one, no electronic devices of any kind.
Speaker B:So no phones, cameras, recorders, et cetera.
Speaker B:No large purses or backpacks.
Speaker B:No drink or food.
Speaker B:Food.
Speaker B:No firearms.
Speaker B:You cannot bring your gun into the mystery hole.
Speaker A:But what if something comes out of.
Speaker B:The mystery hole and attacks you?
Speaker B:Well, you're fucked because you also can't have any pets.
Speaker B:So you're just by yourself without your gun, without your dog.
Speaker B:You're just there.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:No giant purse.
Speaker A:You're fire.
Speaker B:No giant purse.
Speaker B:So it does also come with a warning.
Speaker B:So once you take this 10 minute journey, you may not be able to contain yourself in the usual manner or refrain from making comments such as it made my day, I just love it or it stops my headache.
Speaker A:I want to know who their marketing firm is.
Speaker A:This is amazing.
Speaker B:One lady said it changed her husband from an old grouch to a nice, sweet person.
Speaker B:And some have even complained that the admission price is too low and insisted on giving a tip.
Speaker B:The one thing they all agree on is it's different.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker B:Someone once said that the just the thought of seeing the mystery hole often caused them to feel strange and hyperactive.
Speaker B:All right, so the last amazing.
Speaker A:That is actually, I mean, like, as much as we're like balking, I'm like, this is like, it's.
Speaker A:I hope that they're in on the joke when they pick those quotes.
Speaker A:That's all I know.
Speaker B:I really do have a lesson.
Speaker B:Okay, so the last real one that we're going to talk about is Oregon Vortex.
Speaker B:It's the one that's mentioned in the episode.
Speaker B:And this is in Gold Hill, Oregon.
Speaker B: been open to the public since: Speaker B:It is a spherical field of force half above the ground and half below the ground.
Speaker B:The word vortex simply means a whirlpool of force.
Speaker B:Like a whirling mass of water.
Speaker B:Especially one in which a force of suction operates, such as a whirlpool or a whirling mass of air, or one in the form of a visible column or spiral, such as a tornado, whatever that means.
Speaker B:Okay, so again, as another person on a level platform receives from you towards magnetic south, they appear taller.
Speaker B:When they approach you coming towards magnetic north, they become shorter.
Speaker B:And of course balls roll uphil broom stand on their own.
Speaker B:This house of mystery itself was originally an assay office, which I don't know what that means and I didn't look it up a s S a y. I just guess they sell assets there.
Speaker B:And it was later used for tool storage.
Speaker B: ld Gray Eagle Mining Company,: Speaker B:And it says on their own.
Speaker B:This is based on their website, not me.
Speaker B:That this goes back to the time of Native Americans.
Speaker B:Their horses have not come into the affected area, so they.
Speaker B:They wouldn't.
Speaker B:The Native Americans call the area the forbidden ground.
Speaker B:A place to be shunned.
Speaker B:All right, so on this place you can bring in still cameras.
Speaker B:No motion, video or audio recorders are allowed due to copyright issues.
Speaker B:Huh.
Speaker A:So they copyrighted physics.
Speaker A:Noted.
Speaker B:They copyrighted physics.
Speaker B:It's open 9:30-3pm seven days a week.
Speaker B:Advanced reservations are available at least three days week a in advance via our Eventbrite page.
Speaker B:But I went to that Eventbrite page and it was not.
Speaker B:There was nothing there.
Speaker B:Just had the event had ended.
Speaker A:Hmm.
Speaker B:They also offer private reservations year round.
Speaker B:A private reservation includes an hour long private tour and time to look around the area afterwards.
Speaker B:Private tours are $25 and include up to 20 admissions.
Speaker B:I think that's a pretty good price.
Speaker A:Okay, that's.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Not listed on Mental Floss's list.
Speaker B:I was really surprised.
Speaker B:Was a spring filled mystery spot which was on season two, episode 17 of the Simpsons.
Speaker B:And so like going back to the classic Simpsons really.
Speaker B:And so on that one.
Speaker B:The motto of the mystery spot is where logic takes a holiday and all laws of nature are meaningless.
Speaker B:In keeping with that, when Ozzie Smith entered the shack out of curiosity, he was immediately sent into a mysterious and seemingly never ending free fall through endless empty space.
Speaker B:Even more sinister was the manner in which the owner of the shack merely chuckled when he heard Smith screaming as he fell.
Speaker B:So what are these things?
Speaker B:What does science say?
Speaker B:So science.
Speaker B:So according to how the Great Depression gave birth to gravity defying mystery sites on Science, abc, basically the house or any place where you see such gravity defying Events is built on ancient inclination.
Speaker B:The inclination of the house is not obvious to the visitor.
Speaker B:In fact, it's generally remarkably well camouflaged, making it look like a normal upright house.
Speaker B:The construction of such a house on a slope is an ideal step towards creating a mystery place.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Parts of the floor can be concealed by burying or covering it with regular objects in a household.
Speaker B:They deliberately place physically distorted objects throughout the house to reinforce your perception of normality or make you believe you're standing on perfectly flat ground.
Speaker B:And the basic idea is to make landscape alterations with the of architectural tweaks that distort your perception and your own orientation.
Speaker B:So basically someone's just fucking with your head.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Is shockingly it's an optical illusion because it's built on an edge or incline.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it doesn't make it not fun,.
Speaker B:But no, they're still really fun.
Speaker B:And you know that sound.
Speaker B:It sounds like a fun day.
Speaker B:You do climb a wall and like hang from a rafter and go sideways.
Speaker B:Like I don't think that mean.
Speaker B:I guess I was.
Speaker B:I don't think anyone actually thinks aliens buried shit.
Speaker B:But Yeah, I guess people probably do.
Speaker B:But ye.
Speaker B:There.
Speaker B:There are dozens of these throughout the country.
Speaker B:Like so there's probably a mystery spot near you.
Speaker B:I looked up Wonderworld, which is, you know, in San Marcos where I went to undergrad, because I was like, I thought Wonderworld had one.
Speaker B:I think they did it like some point, but I didn't see it on the website.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think, I think they had like a.
Speaker B:Like a vanishing hole or something like that.
Speaker B:But they've been like, you will see these in like touring.
Speaker B:Touring carnivals and things like that.
Speaker B:You know, they're.
Speaker B:They're everywhere.
Speaker B:But yeah.
Speaker B:So those are the mystery spots.
Speaker B:So now we're going to go to the mystery sp in this episode.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is amazing.
Speaker A:So they're in the mystery spot after hours.
Speaker A:They come through and it's this fucking rad hallway that's painted with this neon spiral.
Speaker A:Neon green and black spiral.
Speaker A:And I love it.
Speaker A:Anyways, I was very excited about the hallway.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And just in general, they're in this mystery spot.
Speaker A:Like I'm sure you were freaking out and you're like, I want this shit in my house.
Speaker A:There's like a, you know, like octopus tentacles coming from the ceiling and a shark's head above, like on the wall.
Speaker A:Like mounted, like fake one, obviously.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But then you get like.
Speaker A:Of course the stuff like you talked about on this.
Speaker A:There's tables mounted to ceilings, there's Furniture kind of like hanging around about on walls.
Speaker A:It's just kind of like.
Speaker A:It's all topsy turvy.
Speaker A:So Sam's trying to get some readings and it's just.
Speaker A:He's like, I don't even know what I'm looking for, and I'm not getting anything.
Speaker A:And then the guy, the proprietor of the Mystery Spot, sneaks up on them with a shot shotgun and asks what they're doing.
Speaker A:And he thinks he's being robbed.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, no, no, I'm just gonna put my gun down.
Speaker A:We're not.
Speaker A:We're not robbing you.
Speaker A:It's not like that.
Speaker A:He's putting his gun down.
Speaker A:And this guy's a little.
Speaker A:This proprietor is a little squirrely.
Speaker A:And the fucking shotgun goes off and he shoots Dean in the fucking chest.
Speaker A:And Sam tells the guy to call 911.
Speaker A:The guy's like, I didn't mean to.
Speaker A:And Dean closes his eyes and dies in Sam's arms.
Speaker A:What the fuck?
Speaker B:I was like, yeah.
Speaker B:So Dean' Dean dead.
Speaker A:And we cut.
Speaker A:And then the next scene, we are back to.
Speaker A:Sam wakes up to Asia's Heart of the Meat of the Moment playing again.
Speaker A:And I'm like, oh, fuck, is this Be a Groundhog Day thing?
Speaker A:Because I already went there.
Speaker A:Already went there.
Speaker A:So same.
Speaker A:They had the same conversation.
Speaker A:They had the same gargling experience.
Speaker A:But Dean kind of was, like, asking Sam if he's all right.
Speaker A:And Sam thinks he just had a weird fucking dream.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:So we go through all the same sequences at the break breakfast.
Speaker A:And Sam is just completely thrown off by this.
Speaker A:Obviously, it's fucking freaky.
Speaker A:And so he didn't even order any food because he remembered he didn't remember anything.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, well, is it just deja vu?
Speaker A:And Sam's like, no, we're.
Speaker A:I think we're living the same day again.
Speaker A:This is not good.
Speaker A:And then he saves the hot sauce.
Speaker A:It's kind of like his little showing that he definitely remembered things.
Speaker A:So Sam's like, no, yesterday and today are both Tuesday.
Speaker A:But Dean didn't have that experience.
Speaker A:Dean isn't going through the same thing that Sam is.
Speaker A:So he's like, maybe it's one of your premonitions.
Speaker A:He's like, no, it's too vivid for that.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:But he doesn't.
Speaker A:But he noted, notably leaves out that Dean died.
Speaker A:So anyway, so he's like, you know what?
Speaker A:Well, we're just gonna avoid the whole problem.
Speaker A:We'll just go to the Mystery Spot again.
Speaker A:But we'll go now during business hours when there's a lot of people around instead of going after closing.
Speaker A:So as they are walking to go to the mystery spot now, Dean steps out in front of Sam and gets hit by a fucking car.
Speaker A:Car driven by the old guy that was checking out at the diner.
Speaker A:And like, flips.
Speaker B:Huge.
Speaker A:Like, it was just like, very dramatic.
Speaker A:It's like a cartwheeling through the air.
Speaker A:Like, spin around and lands on the ground.
Speaker A:And he did he dead.
Speaker A:So once again, Sam gets woken up to Asia.
Speaker A:And they have their whole sequence of lip sync, gargle pictures, taking a poke.
Speaker A:All of that happens again.
Speaker A:And Sam tells Dean that I'm freaking the fuck out.
Speaker A:I'm in a time loop.
Speaker A:It's like Groundhog Day.
Speaker A:This is fucked.
Speaker A:And, like, he's very, very upset.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Dean is again says, like, dingo ate my baby.
Speaker B:Crazy.
Speaker B:Which I did have to point out to my friend.
Speaker B:So do you know, Like, I just.
Speaker B:This is random.
Speaker B:Liz knowledge.
Speaker B:She knows.
Speaker B:So dingo ate my baby.
Speaker B:Which is written in a lot of things.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Dingo actually ate somebody's baby.
Speaker B:And there is this whole thing because there was a trial for this, for a woman in Australia who was camping and a dingo ate her baby.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker A:Believer.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:And they didn't believe her.
Speaker B:And then so eventually, like, it took like, like 12 years of, like, court trials and they finally found the bones of the kid.
Speaker B:And they're like, oh, shit.
Speaker B:Dingle with the baby.
Speaker B:And they're like, sorry, we didn't mean to accuse you of murdering your child.
Speaker A:Oopsies.
Speaker B:Yeah, but that also led to Oz's band name in Buffy.
Speaker B:So we're good with it.
Speaker B:All right, so Sam is catching the hot sauce again.
Speaker B:And he's just not happy about it.
Speaker A:No, he is getting very, very.
Speaker A:He's very not entertained by this whole thing.
Speaker A:And he's like, there's gotta be some other explanation.
Speaker A:And sounds like, no, you die every time.
Speaker A:You died twice.
Speaker A:And you've got to believe me that this is bonkers.
Speaker A:Something weird's happening.
Speaker A:And so he tells him about getting, you know, blown away about getting hit by a car.
Speaker A:And Dean just wants to know if it looked cool like in the movies when he got hit by the car.
Speaker A:And it did, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah, but Sam also says that you peed yourself.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And he's like, but, but, but Dean justifies it because, like, well, duh, Obviously, if you're getting hit by a car, you don't have control of your.
Speaker B:I mean, I pee myself when I sneeze.
Speaker B:So I'm like yeah, of course you peed yourself.
Speaker A:But so, so they do go to the Mystery Spot, but this time they're interviewing the proprietor and pretending to be from the press.
Speaker A:And he's like.
Speaker A:And this guy, you know, he's.
Speaker A:They did like a very like cliche, like kind of slimy, me like looking guy for this role.
Speaker A:But he's like no, my family has been hiding the secrets of the Mystery Spot for years and you should take a tour and blah blah, blah.
Speaker A:But then they start asking about the missing professor that they're in town to fucking find anyways.
Speaker A:And the guy gets like real dodgy and he's like look, I bought this place at foreclosure like last March.
Speaker A:And yeah, and so.
Speaker A:And Sam's getting a little aggressive so dude, Dean has to pull him out of there.
Speaker A:But Dean's like look, obviously this is just the tourist trap that we thought it was.
Speaker A:This whatever's happening has nothing to do with that place.
Speaker A:But Sam's like, no, no, this, there's something I need an explanation for what's going on.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, well, simple enough.
Speaker A:We just keep me from dying to stop the loop.
Speaker B:Duh, of course, that's what you do.
Speaker B:And then he's walking down the street and in classic cartoon fashion, very cartoonish.
Speaker A:And by the way, my husband was not in the room while I was watching most of this episode.
Speaker A:He was doing something else and he walked and sat down.
Speaker A:And then the scene happened.
Speaker A:He's like, what?
Speaker A:So and the giant desk of the that the dummies couldn't get through the door to the building.
Speaker A:They were apparently trying to suspend it and lift it up to the second floor of this building they were trying to get it into through a window and it fell.
Speaker A:And all you got is Dane's legs like wizard of Odd Styles hanging out.
Speaker B:At least like the toes didn't curl.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So back to Heat of the Moment.
Speaker B:And now we're going to the diner and Sam is holding again.
Speaker A:Gave him the whole catch up and of what's happening.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, but why?
Speaker A:And Sam still thought it was the mystery loop, but now he's like.
Speaker A:Or the Mystery Spot.
Speaker A:But now he's like, well, maybe it wasn't.
Speaker A:And he's like, well once again we should just try to keep me alive.
Speaker A:And so Dean orders, instead of getting the pig in a poke with side of bacon, he's like, I'm going to change it.
Speaker A:I'm going to change things up.
Speaker A:Today.
Speaker A:So he gets pig and a poke and a side of sausage and promptly chokes and dies on a piece of sausage.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I think he just should have had a heart attack.
Speaker B:I think that would have just been like, oh, no.
Speaker B:I tried to eat more sausage and now my heart's just giving out.
Speaker A:I'm also like.
Speaker A:Just kind of was like, hold on.
Speaker A:Like you're gonna tell me these guys do all this crazy shit, but they don't know how to do the Heimlich maneuver on each other.
Speaker A:I'm just saying.
Speaker B:No, he died really fast, so I don't.
Speaker B:Yeah, he just.
Speaker B:He choked to death on a giant meat stick.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:He does.
Speaker B:Moment.
Speaker A:Moment.
Speaker A:And Dean's showering.
Speaker A:They're not going to go to breakfast, but Dean slips in the shower and dies.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:Heat of the moment.
Speaker A:And so they're eating tacos at the.
Speaker A:In the motel room.
Speaker A:Tacos.
Speaker A:I'm getting good crispy tacos tonight.
Speaker A:Very excited.
Speaker B:Well, actually, yeah, I keep.
Speaker B:I was intending to stop by the store and get taco shells on the way home, but I was running errands.
Speaker B:So I will be ordering instacart to bring me taco shells so I can make tacos.
Speaker A:Because Dean asks if the tacos taste funny.
Speaker A:The scene cuts out.
Speaker A:So I guess he got food poisoning.
Speaker A:And heat of the moment.
Speaker A:And then Dean's trying to shave with electric razor and electrocutes himself.
Speaker A:Heat of the moment.
Speaker A:So, yeah, so they go back to the Mystery Spot.
Speaker A:Sam is very like.
Speaker A:Sam's gotta be like.
Speaker A:Sam is obviously losing his shit.
Speaker A:I'm just saying at this point.
Speaker A:And Dean's got the proprietor tied up with a bunch of duct tape while Sam is aggressively using an ax to tear into all the walls of the Mystery Spot.
Speaker A:Because he's back to the theory that somehow this is all coming from there and Sam is just fucking losing his shit.
Speaker A:Dean's like, maybe we should wrap it up.
Speaker A:You've torn this place up.
Speaker A:We're good.
Speaker A:And so goes to try to get the ax from Sam.
Speaker A:And they fight over the ax.
Speaker A:And there's blood splatter and dead again.
Speaker A:Heat of the moment again.
Speaker A:And they're at breakfast, but as they're walking in, Sam steals the old man's keys.
Speaker A:That's checking out the one that hits Dean in the first or second death scene.
Speaker A:He tells the waitress that she needs to log her hours at the archery range because she's a terrible shot.
Speaker B:So now we know there is another Dean death that we didn't see.
Speaker B:That Doris killed him.
Speaker B:At the archery.
Speaker B:Why are you at the archery range?
Speaker B:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:Where did Doris have an arrow?
Speaker B:Like, how did this happen?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:So the implication though is obviously there's a lot more Tuesdays that we're not seeing.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:He tries to explain the time loop to Dean again.
Speaker A:He's just very grumpy about it, apparently.
Speaker A:He says at this point, this is his hundredth Tuesday in a row and nothing ever changes.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:And Sam's quoting Dean as he speaks.
Speaker A:And Dean's trying to like, make him say insulting things about himself, which he does.
Speaker B:Does.
Speaker A:And it's whatever.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:So we actually.
Speaker B:What he said was, you think you're being funny, but you're really being childish.
Speaker B:Sam Winchester wears makeup.
Speaker B:Sam Winchester cries his way through sex.
Speaker B:Sam Winchester keeps a ruler by the bed.
Speaker B:And every morning when he wakes up, he.
Speaker B:And that's when they finally stop.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And then Sam's just like spilling all the town secrets.
Speaker A:Cashier, skimming, the judge dresses up in a bunny suit.
Speaker A:The homeless guy is going to run, rob a place, like just.
Speaker A:He's been like, he's lived this so many times.
Speaker A:He knows everything that's going to happen to all these people that are sitting in this diner.
Speaker A:And then he's watched Dean die every way, you know, and he's torn down, burned down the Mystery Spot, all these things.
Speaker A:And he can't stop it.
Speaker A:He's like, you die, I wake up and then it's Tuesday again.
Speaker A:That's a fucked up type of torture, by the way.
Speaker A:It really also like, I mean, like you'd think like, oh, well, you get a day with him every day at least.
Speaker A:And you know, you're getting another day.
Speaker A:But at some point that's just really torturous.
Speaker A:Just waiting for it all the time.
Speaker A:Anyways, so we, you know, they go outside and they're walking.
Speaker A:And while that.
Speaker A:When the chick bumps into Dean like she does every day, Dean's like, hey, have I ever hit on her?
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, no, no.
Speaker A:He's like, all right.
Speaker A:So Dean goes and does Dean things.
Speaker B:Well, he didn't ask him or hit on her.
Speaker B:He just says, have we ever talked to her?
Speaker B:But to be fair, we just read it as Dan.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker A:Yeah, okay, but it's Dean.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:And Dean's comes back.
Speaker A:He's like 100 Tuesdays.
Speaker A:And you never checked what she had in her hands.
Speaker A:She was carrying some papers.
Speaker A:It's a flyer for the missing guy.
Speaker A:It's his daughter.
Speaker A:So now they've got Another lead, basically, on the whole reason they're there, which was this professor that went missing.
Speaker A:And then Dean goes to pet the dog that barks him every day.
Speaker A:And all of a sudden he.
Speaker A:There's some growling and Dean's dead again.
Speaker B:Death by golden retriever.
Speaker B:Like, that's pretty.
Speaker A:Like how.
Speaker B:Like a golden retriever kills you.
Speaker B:Like, how is that even.
Speaker B:Okay, yeah.
Speaker A:So the moment.
Speaker B:And back in the diner.
Speaker A:Back at the diner.
Speaker A:And so now Sam's had enough time to do a bunch of research on the professor.
Speaker A:Apparently he was also a little bit of a blogger journalist and wrote about all the touristy mystery spots and debunked them all and just talked shit on them on the Internet.
Speaker B:Yeah, he called himself the Truth Warrior.
Speaker B:And they're like, he must have waited time because he was so full of himself.
Speaker B:Anybody who calls himself a Truth Warrior.
Speaker B:Yeah, you know, so.
Speaker B:But that leads to some interesting conclusions.
Speaker A:Well, you know, Sam doesn't really go into explain.
Speaker A:You don't really see him explain to Dean the Groundhog Day thing going on.
Speaker A:But, you know, at this point, Dean's laughing.
Speaker A:He's like, oh, this guy shits on mystery spots.
Speaker A:Then he disappears looking into one and makes the just desserts comment.
Speaker A:So Sam pauses and he's kind of looking.
Speaker A:And there's a guy that has been at the diner every day and was just.
Speaker A:Not really.
Speaker A:No, just this guy.
Speaker A:It's there every day.
Speaker A:And he's had maple syrup every day.
Speaker A:But one day, this one day, he's got strawberry syrup.
Speaker A:It stands out.
Speaker A:And he's like.
Speaker A:Sam goes, nothing ever changes except me Wake up to Asia once again.
Speaker B:And then I was like, he doesn't.
Speaker B:Because I was like, okay, when we go to Asia.
Speaker B:So we're just assuming that Dean died somewhere.
Speaker B:But they did something like, miss that part.
Speaker B:They just immediately.
Speaker B:So, like, either.
Speaker B:Because I have a question mark here, because I'm like, either Dean died where it was him realizing it.
Speaker B:That there was probably a trickster involved that had it reset.
Speaker B:So I'm not sure.
Speaker B:Like, I think you can interpret that either way.
Speaker A:I think you can.
Speaker A:I lean towards the death because I feel like they kind of like just at some point just kind of like stopped doing the deaths.
Speaker A:And, you know, because they've done so many with you.
Speaker A:We know there was the hundred that we didn't see or whatever we saw, you know, but that was how I read it.
Speaker A:But I did notice.
Speaker A:I was like, nothing ever.
Speaker A:Like, nothing really happens here.
Speaker A:It just kind of.
Speaker A:He wakes up again.
Speaker A:So obviously Sam has Explained to Dean what's going on.
Speaker A:And Dean's like, are you like, almost.
Speaker A:I'm kind of like a God here.
Speaker A:And that's where Sam's like, you just eat your food.
Speaker A:And he's watching the guy that's sitting at the counter.
Speaker A:And the guy has maple syrup again today.
Speaker A:Back to his normal.
Speaker A:So they follow him out and grab him.
Speaker A:And Sam's got his demon blade to the guy's throat.
Speaker B:No, it's a steak.
Speaker B:It's a steak.
Speaker A:It looks like a blank, so.
Speaker B:No, it's a steak.
Speaker B:Steaks are what kill tricksters.
Speaker A:Oh, that's right.
Speaker A:It was a steak.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:But it looked like it was just a weird steak to me.
Speaker B:That's okay.
Speaker A:So he's like.
Speaker A:He's like going after pompous jerks and giving them just desserts.
Speaker A:That's a Trickster thing to do.
Speaker A:Haha.
Speaker A:And the Trickster like, no, no, no, no, it's not me.
Speaker A:And then until they changes into the Trickster, which loves Richard Spade.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then my notes say, bow chick, bow wow.
Speaker B:All right, so we got Richard back.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:The mystery mystery spot has been revealed.
Speaker B:It is all the work of the Trickster.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And Sam's like, why are you doing this to me?
Speaker A:And Neen, he's like, I'm only doing it to you.
Speaker A:Number one.
Speaker A:Number one.
Speaker A:But you tried to kill me.
Speaker A:So it's pretty fucking fair.
Speaker A:Like, fuck you guys kind of attitude and that.
Speaker A:And then the professor said.
Speaker A:The professor didn't believe in wormholes.
Speaker A:So the Trickster dropped him into one, which is so.
Speaker A:And Sam asks if he's having fun killing.
Speaker A:Dean's like, yeah, that's fun.
Speaker A:But really the joke's on you.
Speaker A:You can't save your brother no matter what.
Speaker A:And that's his whole point because he's talking about also about just the future of Dean's future death and, you know, going to hell too.
Speaker A:So he's like, look, I'll end it and you can wake up Wednesday, whatever, if y' all stop coming after me.
Speaker A:Or whatever.
Speaker A:And then Sam's like, no, I'm gonna go ahead and fucking kill you now.
Speaker A:And they wake up and he snaps.
Speaker B:It's not heat of the moment anymore.
Speaker A:Now it's Back in Time by Huey Lewis and the news back in time.
Speaker A:And it's Wednesday.
Speaker A:So it is Wednesday now.
Speaker B:And now Sam loves Huey Lewis.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so Sam's like, yep, let's get the fuck out of town.
Speaker A:We get a good shot of Trunk while Dean's loading the car team Trunk.
Speaker B:Hi trunk.
Speaker A:But what we also get here is the guy who got.
Speaker A:Who was like, didn't have a lot of money to buy coffee, is standing there with a fucking gun.
Speaker A:So what does he do?
Speaker A:Tries to rob Dean and shoots him.
Speaker B:Son of a bitch.
Speaker B:Which is really what my notes say in large letters.
Speaker B:Son of a bitch.
Speaker A:I was a little.
Speaker A:I was like, oh no.
Speaker A:I got a little upset.
Speaker A:But then like, they did like, they really went for it with the squirting blood out of his chest.
Speaker A:They really went for it.
Speaker A:And then they get like, if you have like a wound, like in a heart, it can like squirt, like with the heartbeat.
Speaker B:How many times are you going to say squirt?
Speaker A:But they really went for it.
Speaker A:I'm just saying.
Speaker A:I was like, geez.
Speaker A:So, but what happened?
Speaker A:Unfortunately, Sam runs out and he's waiting to fall asleep and wake up, but he doesn't.
Speaker A:Dean's actually fucking dead.
Speaker A:Holy shit.
Speaker B:He did.
Speaker A:Hey, dad.
Speaker A:So we cut to six months later.
Speaker A:There's kind of like a lot of like a montage showing that Sam's traveling and it's Sam driving and he's obviously Sam's working solo.
Speaker A:You get voicemail from Bobby looking for him.
Speaker A:And he hasn't talked to Bobby in three months at this point.
Speaker A:And basically he's just like hunting demons especially and tricksters specifically and just like killing everything in his path.
Speaker A:And like they show him like cleaning a bullet wound in his own like, body, like in a motel room.
Speaker B:It was kind of hot.
Speaker B:I liked it.
Speaker B:I was just like, sam operating himself is ridiculously hot.
Speaker B:I don't know why, but it just impressive.
Speaker A:And Bobby leaves another voicemail about him looking for the Trickster and how worried he is.
Speaker A:And you know, it's kind of like he kind of like was like really weirdly keeping up with his motel room.
Speaker A:I noted it because I thought it was weird.
Speaker A:I'm like, he's like perfectly making his motel bed.
Speaker A:I'm like, why?
Speaker A:But he had his murder wall going.
Speaker B:Yeah, also I'm also one of Bobby's voicemail.
Speaker B:He was like, that vampire nest in Austin.
Speaker B:Hell of a job.
Speaker B:So Sam took out a vampire nest in Austin.
Speaker A:And then on another.
Speaker A:The last voicemail we get from Bobby, he says that he found the trickster.
Speaker A:And so Sam goes to meet Bobby at the mystery spot that they.
Speaker A:That this all kind of started in.
Speaker A:And Bobby's there.
Speaker A:He's like, this is the last place we knew that he worked magic.
Speaker A:So we should.
Speaker A:It makes Sense to summon him from here, but we need a gallon of fresh blood.
Speaker A:And we can only do this ritual tonight because it won't happen again for another 50 years.
Speaker A:This all sounds very odd at this point.
Speaker A:So Sam's like, all right, I'll go get some blood.
Speaker A:Then they're like, even though taking a gallon of blood will bleed someone dry and kill them, I don't know if it'll be them dry, but it would be enough to kill somebody.
Speaker A:I don't know how much blood we have in us.
Speaker B:We have more than a gallon of blood, but that would kill you.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:You're not bleeding them dry, but it would be enough to kill them.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:You are insinuating that the word.
Speaker B:A vampire person should be able to say this.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:And there's a lot of things to be read into and as we get into the further things of what's really happening here.
Speaker B:Yeah, but it's.
Speaker B:What if this is Sam acting?
Speaker B:And how much of this is Sam really just being like, now fucking kill somebody?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I think he's ready to.
Speaker A:I think he's like, fuck it.
Speaker A:I'm gonna kill somebody.
Speaker A:Like, I'll do it.
Speaker A:I'll do whatever it takes to get my brother back.
Speaker A:And Bobby's like, man, this breaks my heart.
Speaker A:You're gonna be with.
Speaker A:Fucking murder an innocent person.
Speaker A:This isn't you.
Speaker A:And that basically, I tricked you into meeting me and.
Speaker A:Because I just wanted to get you out of this loop and make you realize that this isn't like.
Speaker A:You can't just obsess on this kind of a thing.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's kind of the spiel of Bobby's trying to save Sam from himself and his own vendetta by making him meet there and making him find his humanity again by not killing an innocent person to try to bring his brother back.
Speaker A:So Bobby's like, but fuck it.
Speaker A:I've lived a good life.
Speaker A:Kill me.
Speaker A:Take my blood.
Speaker A:Do.
Speaker A:Do it.
Speaker A:If it's that important to you.
Speaker A:You're the closest thing I have to family.
Speaker A:Let's do it.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:I was very upset at this point.
Speaker A:And I'm like, this is fucked up.
Speaker A:This is fucked up.
Speaker A:It's very upsetting.
Speaker A:Like, I don't know.
Speaker A:Anyways, that's very upsetting scene.
Speaker A:And you need him.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Yeah, you need Dan to just kill me.
Speaker A:And he kneels down and says to make it quick.
Speaker A:And Sam stakes him.
Speaker A:So at some point, Sam figured out that this isn't Bobby.
Speaker A:But there is a delay here, for the record.
Speaker A:And like the body falls and you're like.
Speaker A:He just killed Bobby.
Speaker A:Oh shit.
Speaker A:What the fuck?
Speaker A:And then it waits.
Speaker A:Waits.
Speaker A:Okay, nevermind.
Speaker A:It wasn't body after all.
Speaker A:The body disappears.
Speaker A:Ha ha ha.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And then the trickster appears and he's like, look.
Speaker A:Yeah, Dean is actually dead.
Speaker A:And he is.
Speaker A:He's in hell.
Speaker A:So sorry, this isn't like your wake up time again.
Speaker B:No, he's not only in hell.
Speaker B:He is doing the Hellfire Rumba.
Speaker A:The Hellfire Rumba?
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So this is.
Speaker B:You know, I.
Speaker B:And well, I obviously will talk more about this.
Speaker B:But just the fact that fuck like these.
Speaker B:So six months Dean really died.
Speaker B:He's been in hell.
Speaker B:This is one kind of a pre telling of what's going to happen.
Speaker B:You know, if.
Speaker B:Even if we don't like assuming that this is.
Speaker B:Everything's gonna be fine.
Speaker B:We're gonna be like this is what's gonna happen to Sam when Dean dies.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's pretty much it, right?
Speaker B:And you know, according to the Trickster, you know, it's just like I am trying to teach you that the way you guys are trying to save each other constantly.
Speaker B:It's not healthy.
Speaker B:It is not a healthy way to be.
Speaker B:And you know, you are Travis Bickle in a skirt, pal.
Speaker B:And which I love a taxi driver reference.
Speaker B:Yeah, watch that later.
Speaker B:I haven't watched it all in time, but yeah, it's.
Speaker A:He's got to give up on his obsession with saving Dean.
Speaker A:That's what he says specifically too.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But there is part of me that's also like.
Speaker B:Why do you care so much?
Speaker A:Well, I thought kind of what the.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker A:I think there was.
Speaker A:He alluded to why he cared and I thought.
Speaker A:I thought that that was interesting.
Speaker A:I think that he's involved in like he has a.
Speaker A:Some kind of an interest in the war that's supposedly coming.
Speaker A:Because he's saying look, Dean's your weakness.
Speaker A:And bad guys know it too.
Speaker A:So he's kind of trying like it's as much as it's a fucked up like horrible thing to do.
Speaker A:In a way it seems like he's trying to who help train Sam to be stronger.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:It's really fucked up.
Speaker A:Still though.
Speaker B:Yeah, we're not clear like why.
Speaker B:Why do you care like beyond like you normally just care about just desserts, right?
Speaker B:You normally just here to fuck with people and now like you've been fucking with Sam for like a long time, right?
Speaker B:And so like, you have been like.
Speaker B:Because there was 100 Tuesdays.
Speaker B:Now we have six months of this.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:And we think about timeline of Sam's life, which also has to be completely fucked up at this point.
Speaker A:Like, this is nine.
Speaker A:This is over nine months.
Speaker B:Nine months of this shit.
Speaker B:Watching your brother die repeatedly.
Speaker B:Then your brother being dead, then you turning into a psycho asshole.
Speaker B:Like, you just insane.
Speaker B:Went dark, right?
Speaker B:And.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, he went super, super, super shut down.
Speaker A:You could tell he was like, completely emotionally shut down.
Speaker A:That was what the character.
Speaker A:I felt that's what they were going for with the character.
Speaker A:Just like, that's it.
Speaker A:It was wild.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Pretty ridiculous.
Speaker A:So Sam's, like, begging, though, for this, to just let him go back to the Wednesday.
Speaker A:Let's let him go back.
Speaker A:And he's like.
Speaker A:And the Trickster said this.
Speaker A:He says this stopped being fun months ago.
Speaker A:And he snaps his fingers.
Speaker A:And Sam wakes up in the motel to Huey fucking Lewis.
Speaker A:It's Dean.
Speaker A:Dean's there and it's Wednesday.
Speaker A:And so Sam hugs Dean.
Speaker A:And Dean asks how many Tuesdays he had thought it was an interesting.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Because he remembers that there was a wax.
Speaker A:That Sam was all whacked out about, like a Tuesday thing.
Speaker A:And then.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So there we go.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he does.
Speaker B:Sam just.
Speaker B:Just blows it off to Dean was like, I just had a really weird dream.
Speaker B:And Dean responds back again with clowns or midgets.
Speaker B:That is apparently his response.
Speaker B:So weird.
Speaker B:He won't.
Speaker B:Yeah, he won't let Dean go out to the parking lot by himself.
Speaker B:And he follows him out and he turns out the light and they close.
Speaker B:And that's how we end the episode.
Speaker B:And so before we go digging into it, so this is the ways, according to Supernatural Wiki that we know Dean died on Tuesday.
Speaker B:All right?
Speaker B:Shot at the Mystery Spot.
Speaker B:Run over, crushed by a fox.
Speaker B:Chokes on a sausage.
Speaker B:Slips in the shower.
Speaker B:Poisoned by a taco.
Speaker B:Electrocuted by his razor.
Speaker B:I forgot to bring this up.
Speaker B:Who has a razor that plugs into the wall?
Speaker B:That seems like the worst idea that was ever created.
Speaker B:I know they existed.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I guess they are now, like, cordless, but that just seems really stupid.
Speaker B:All right, so accidentally killed with an ax.
Speaker B:Shot with an arrow by Doris the Way waitress.
Speaker B:And mauled by a golden retriever.
Speaker B:And on Wednesday, he was shot in the hotel parking lot by Cal.
Speaker B:So those are the ways that we know at least that he died.
Speaker B:So that's already quite a long list.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I was.
Speaker A:I went through a roller coaster.
Speaker A:Like, you you were like, this is a fun episode.
Speaker A:And I was like.
Speaker A:At first I'm like, this is really stressful.
Speaker A:Like, okay, now it's kind of fun.
Speaker A:No, it's back to fucking stressful.
Speaker A:It was, but overall it was really good.
Speaker A:It was just funny.
Speaker A:I was like, well, it's both.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And so it's obviously it's least stressful for me because I've seen it.
Speaker B:But I think they do such a great job of telling this storyline of Sam wrestling with the loss of Dean in a humorous way.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So we got like.
Speaker B:It's because it was fucking hilarious.
Speaker A:Like, you know, up until the six month part.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, up until the end.
Speaker B:But I mean, they're dealing with a very heavy subject and you're just like.
Speaker B:You're able to watch it and not be like emotionally torn apart.
Speaker A:Yeah, no, no.
Speaker A:Yeah, you were.
Speaker A:It was definitely an entertain.
Speaker A:They made it entertaining.
Speaker A:You're always like, what's gonna happen next?
Speaker A:Or some great one liners.
Speaker A:Like even if it was even there were throwaway ones that were just like related to that exact scene.
Speaker A:And then it was done.
Speaker A:Like, this tastes funny.
Speaker A:Like that was fucking funny because you knew it was gonna happen.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, it was entertaining and then.
Speaker A:And they did a good job with that.
Speaker A:You're right.
Speaker A:Absolutely agree.
Speaker A:It was, it made it interesting.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But you're right.
Speaker A:The other piece of it that really.
Speaker A:So we got the fun, which they're really good at doing the comedy with when they were on it.
Speaker A:I think like the lines are good and then like the, you know, even the physical comedy in this one was pretty good as far as like the, you know, Sam catching the hot sauce every time.
Speaker A:That was kind of funny too after a while, even though it's probably not to his character, but it was entertaining.
Speaker A:And then like to, you know, Dean flipping over the car to the, to the, you know, the cartoon style desk falling.
Speaker A:Like there was good physical humor in here.
Speaker A:But also, also like you said, like it gets really, really heavy thinking about like, yeah, Sam is a.
Speaker A:It's the trickster.
Speaker A:It's a great point that, that Dean, these brothers are each other's weaknesses, right?
Speaker A:They're always sacrificing for each other.
Speaker A:Not that they shouldn't, not that they shouldn't want to, but sometimes they might do things without thinking of following consequences, but really calls that out.
Speaker A:And then also just thinking about like the time time, like, damn, that is like a up type of torture to like watch your sibling or that you're, that you're like that's your best friend in the world.
Speaker A:Die every day for 100 days in a row.
Speaker A:Because then you see him the next day and it's like, well, you don't mourn.
Speaker A:You don't know when this is going to end.
Speaker A:You don't know if they're not going to come back next time.
Speaker A:You don't know because you're trapped in this thing.
Speaker A:It's just very, very like intense to think about.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's intense things to think about.
Speaker B:But it's also really, I think to me where it gets heavy is a six months where he was dead.
Speaker A:Oh yeah.
Speaker B:And is this the prediction of how dark side is Sam going to go if this is inevitable?
Speaker B:Like everyone keeps saying, we cannot get out of this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Is this going to happen to Sam?
Speaker B:Is he going to turn into.
Speaker B:To this super.
Speaker B:And he was.
Speaker B:He's already been going kind of dark side.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:We see this darker, a little bit more emotionally withdrawn and just kind of like more.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Not as empathetic of a character as he used to be.
Speaker B:Harder.
Speaker B:I guess he's getting harder.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then to go that, like that.
Speaker A:And then think about like man, imagine like you would have gone through like the initial portions of grief, but also living in denial and then it all get unhappy done.
Speaker A:Like is there.
Speaker B:Is there no therapy for that?
Speaker B:I don't think there is.
Speaker B:I think that's why you just.
Speaker A:I mean they both obviously have.
Speaker B:They both need like.
Speaker B:I don't want to be either of their therapists, but yeah, I know there is that tooth.
Speaker B:Like how do you deal like from Sam's perspective.
Speaker B:And I think we'll see this kind of run through supernatural over and over again if you want are in a world where human rules of life and death are not finite, that there are ways around it.
Speaker B:Do you ever accept a death or do you all.
Speaker B:Or do you always try and fight it?
Speaker A:And then there's a whole.
Speaker A:Then you get into just general concepts of mortality and like.
Speaker A:And like.
Speaker A:Like I was saying, like grief and like all this other thing.
Speaker A:And then you ever actually process things?
Speaker B:Well, I clearly Sam process nothing.
Speaker B:He just.
Speaker B:He was just like, hunt, kill, hunt, kill.
Speaker A:Yeah, something to find the trickster.
Speaker A:Hunt, kill, find the trickster.
Speaker A:And that's it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So Sam is not healthy.
Speaker B:He's not wrong.
Speaker A:Wait, hold on.
Speaker A:Were we.
Speaker A:Did we ever think that either of these young men.
Speaker B:Yeah, neither.
Speaker B:Neither of them are healthy.
Speaker B:They have no way of dealing with.
Speaker B:With emotions in a healthy way.
Speaker B:Not that I do because I firmly have the shove everything down and then drink about it later.
Speaker B:But you know, it's.
Speaker B:Yeah, like I said, I really enjoy this episode.
Speaker B:I'm glad that you liked it, even though it was stressful.
Speaker B:But it's especially like, you know, in in seasons like this where things get really dark.
Speaker B:I'm glad that they are throwing.
Speaker B:We get these huge few more things mixed in with there.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:And I think that's really why I love the show.
Speaker B:So anything else?
Speaker A:That's all I got.
Speaker B:All right, well, Happy New Year to everybody.
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